Damped harmonic oscillation

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The discussion centers on the behavior of damped harmonic oscillation, specifically the sign of the damping coefficient, gamma (γ). Participants argue that γ should be positive, as the damping force acts in the direction opposite to the velocity of the mass. Confusion arises over the definitions of velocity and force, with some asserting that using the magnitude of velocity leads to incorrect conclusions. The consensus is that the correct formulation for the damping force is F = -b * v, where v is a signed scalar, ensuring that the damping force opposes motion. Ultimately, the key takeaway is that gamma remains positive when properly defined in relation to the damping force and velocity.
  • #61
Orodruin said:
My point is that the x-component in one system is not the same as the x-component in another system. Taking the x-component of a vector in system A does not give you the same thing as taking the x-component in system B. In fact, they generally have both different magnitude and obviously correspond to different directions. As such, ”the x-component” is not coordinate invariant.
I cannot see what that has to do with my post #44. The question I raised there was merely one of terminology: having resolved a vector into components in the ##\hat x## and ##\hat y## directions, as ##\vec v=x\hat x+y\hat y## say, what are the "components"? Are they ##x## and ##y## or ##x\hat x## and ##y\hat y##?

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  • #62
haruspex said:
I cannot see what that has to do with my post #44. The question I raised there was merely one of terminology: having resolved a vector into components in the ##\hat x## and ##\hat y## directions, as ##\vec v=x\hat x+y\hat y## say, what are the "components"? Are they ##x## and ##y## or ##x\hat x## and ##y\hat y##?

If anyone wants to continue this sidebar, I think we should do it by PM.
I mean, ultimately it comes down to if you want everyone to necessarily write vector arrows on everything that would need it in three dimensions also for one-dimensional problems. I don’t. I expect anyone that argues for this to also start writing double arrows on top of any variable representing string tension as it is actually a rank two tensor. What you actually call things later is not as important.
 
  • #63
Orodruin said:
I mean, ultimately it comes down to if you want everyone to necessarily write vector arrows on everything that would need it in three dimensions also for one-dimensional problems. I don’t. I expect anyone that argues for this to also start writing double arrows on top of any variable representing string tension as it is actually a rank two tensor. What you actually call things later is not as important.
A good physicist ought to use proper symbols/notations/units everywhere, especially when writing a book, or when working on a project or when explaining things to others. If one is going to not use such symbols/notations/units for something, then justification and reminder for doing it like that, must be mentioned at appropriate places. If you are studying/doing some physics on your own for your own sake, then maybe not. This makes things precise & clear for everyone, otherwise it may lead to such disasters as mentioned in post#51.
 
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  • #64
NTesla said:
A good physicist ought to use proper symbols/notations/units everywhere, especially when writing a book, or when working on a project or when explaining things to others. If one is going to not use such symbols/notations/units for something, then justification and reminder for doing it like that, must be mentioned at appropriate places. If you are studying/doing some physics on your own for your own sake, then maybe not. This makes things precise & clear for everyone, otherwise it may lead to such disasters as mentioned in post#51.
You are missing the point completely. Writing out the projected equation is absolutely proper. There is not a single thing inappropriate about it. Do you also want to use double arrows on string tensions? If you want to be consistent with this point of view you must. I do not know any single source that does this, you are free to find counter examples if you can.
 
  • #65
Orodruin said:
You are missing the point completely. Writing out the projected equation is absolutely proper. There is not a single thing inappropriate about it. Do you also want to use double arrows on string tensions? If you want to be consistent with this point of view you must. I do not know any single source that does this, you are free to find counter examples if you can.
You are completely missing the point that I made regarding writing justifications and reminders if one is not going to do that.
 

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