B Dark matter and SMBH orbital decay

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Researchers recently discovered two supermassive black holes (SMBHs) orbiting each other in a distant galaxy, raising questions about their formation and orbital dynamics. The discussion highlights the role of gas and dust in SMBH migration, but questions why dark matter, which does not interact with light, isn't considered a more significant factor in this process. It is noted that while dark matter is abundant, its negligible interaction with black holes means it doesn't contribute meaningfully to their orbital decay. The conversation also explores the mechanics of how black holes can fling matter away, suggesting that dark matter could theoretically be slingshotted away but lacks a mechanism for capture. Overall, the complexities of SMBH interactions and the potential influence of dark matter remain areas of ongoing inquiry.
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I have a curiosity. I saw recently how a team of researchers discovered two super massive black holes orbiting each other in a far off galaxy. (Google it if you didn’t hear, fascinating how they did it.).

Anyway, I read a few things about unsolved mysteries of their formation and how SMBHs migrate onwards by kicking stars out, trading angular momentum. Then how they get stuck orbiting each other because there are no more stars to toss out and nobody seems to be sure how they progress from there. I read a few places how gas and dust may help a little but how that resource would be quickly gobbled up or blown out by the heat.

So far I haven’t seen anything about dark matter though. So my question is why would dark matter not be a better candidate than gas and dust? Since it doesn’t interact with light, it wouldn’t be blown away and it seems like the supply of it at the galactic core would be for all practical purposes infinite.
 
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The amount of dark matter falling into black holes is completely negligible. We had various calculations here in the past, the search function should find them.
newjerseyrunner said:
Since it doesn’t interact with light, it wouldn’t be blown away
Yes, but there is also nothing that would capture it.
 
mfb said:
The amount of dark matter falling into black holes is completely negligible. We had various calculations here in the past, the search function should find them.
Yes, but there is also nothing that would capture it.
But I’m not asking about it being captured. I’m asking about it being slingshotted away. The energy given to the accelerated particle is taken away from the orbital energy of the BH. Basically small thurst over a billion years.

I’m under the impression that black holes move to the centers of galaxies by flinging things out, not eating them. Why wouldn’t it do the same with dark matter?
 
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To get slingshotted away it has to get close to the black hole. That is easier if there is a mechanism that captures the matter in the vicinity of the black hole pair.
Falling into the black hole and getting shot away are two possible outcomes that both bring (on average) the black holes closer together.

Yes there is a thrust, but it is completely negligible.
 
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newjerseyrunner said:
But I’m not asking about it being captured. I’m asking about it being slingshotted away. The energy given to the accelerated particle is taken away from the orbital energy of the BH. Basically small thurst over a billion years.

I’m under the impression that black holes move to the centers of galaxies by flinging things out, not eating them. Why wouldn’t it do the same with dark matter?

The black holes can fling both ways. From a distance a particle follows an elliptical orbit around the barycenter. If that orbit is a path "behind" one of the black holes then the particle flings out like a catapult round. If the orbit passes "in front" then the particle looses momentum and adds spin to the black hole pair. For example NASA has used Venus for gravity assist for missions to both Mercury and to Saturn.
 
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