DC Transient RL Circuit - Current Decay

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the behavior of a DC transient RL circuit, specifically focusing on the current decay and the application of equations governing current rise and decay. Participants explore the implications of varying input voltages and starting currents on the circuit's performance, as well as the conditions for switching between building and decaying current.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents an equation for current rise and seeks to adapt it for current decay, expressing interest in using a negative voltage to influence the decay rate.
  • Another participant questions the necessity of modifying the equation for decay, suggesting that the equation should work for both rise and decay under static conditions.
  • A participant mentions using transient inputs and resetting time to zero with each input change, indicating a discrepancy between their calculations and simulation results from ANSYS Maxwell.
  • Another participant asserts that the equation is symmetric for rise and fall times and suggests that the time constant τ may be calculated incorrectly, emphasizing the need for the equation to settle before applying new inputs.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether the equation for current rise can be directly applied to current decay without modification. There is no consensus on the best approach to handle the transition between building and decaying current, nor on the accuracy of the calculations compared to simulation data.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential issues with the calculation of the time constant τ and the effects of transient versus step inputs on the circuit's behavior. There are unresolved questions regarding the conditions under which the current should switch between rising and decaying.

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Individuals interested in the analysis of RL circuits, transient response behavior, and those working with circuit simulations may find this discussion relevant.

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If I have a circuit with

R = 1Ω
L = 300μH
V = 20V
i0 = 5A

I know that I can use the equation at the bottom of page 13 to calculate the current rise given any starting current and input voltage:

i(t) = (V/R)[1-e-t/τ] + i0e-t/τ

This is fine, and stops increasing at 20A as expected, but then how would I (if I need to) arrange the equation so that it works in a similar way for decay? Say I was starting at a current of 15A, with a driving voltage of 10V?

I know that if I use:

i(t) = (V/R)[e-t/τ]

I will start decaying at 10A down to 0A, but I'm interested in being able to specify a negative voltage to drive the decay faster, with a variable starting current.

Thanks in advance for any advice!

*edit*
Also, how would I work out when it is best to switch between building and decaying current? Would it just be when |V/R| > |i(t)| is less than 0, I build, and when |V/R| < |i(t)| I decay?

Thanks again
 
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I don't understand the problem. That equation appears to work regardless of "rise" or "decay", and regardless of what types of inputs you use (provided they are not dynamic).
 
I have been using transient inputs, though every time my input changes, I have resent my t back to 0 and begun recounting, so the dynamic input shouldn't be a problem

Compared to simulation from ANSYS Maxwell and from test data, this appears to be calculating results which decay much slower, though rise appears relatively similar
 
The equation definitely doesn't have any differences between rise/fall times, it is inherently symmetric. The only thing I can think of is that perhaps you are calculating τ incorrectly? It should be τ = L/R.

This equation will work fine for multiple step transients provided it has time to fully settle before applying the next one. If you are trying to calculate transients that are something other than step changes, you will want to solve the general differential equation.
 

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