Definition of a Tensor: Learn Physics Basics

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The discussion revolves around the definition and significance of tensors in physics, particularly focusing on the Riemann curvature tensor and its relation to the metric tensor. Participants explore the conceptual understanding of tensors, their types, and their mathematical properties.

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  • One participant expresses difficulty in understanding tensors and requests a simple explanation of their definition and significance.
  • Another participant provides links to a video and a related thread, suggesting that there are various explanations available for the original poster's question.
  • A participant corrects the original poster's terminology, noting the distinction between the Riemann curvature tensor and the metric tensor.
  • One participant describes two kinds of tensors: one as a linear operator that maps vectors to other vectors, and the other as a generalization of vectors that can represent higher-dimensional objects.
  • This participant also mentions the transformation law for tensors, emphasizing that a change of coordinates should not alter the tensor itself, which is a key property of both types of tensors discussed.

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There is no clear consensus on the definition of tensors, as participants present varying perspectives and clarifications. The discussion includes corrections and distinctions without resolving the initial confusion expressed by the original poster.

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Participants have not fully addressed the significance of tensors in practical applications or provided concrete examples, which may limit understanding for those unfamiliar with the topic.

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I am still a physics novice and am learning new things everyday. I've been looking at tensors recently and I'm finding that I can't really understand what they are. Could someone explain in relatively simple words what the definition of a tensor is and why they are so significant? Also, what is the significance of Riemann's metric tensor, which I read about in Michio Kaku's Hyperspace. Examples would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
 
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See this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5liqUk0ZTw

Take a look at this thread, where the OP asked a similar question. There are a variety of good explanations that you may find helpful.

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=623124

Also, you're mixing together two different tensors - the Riemann curvature tensor and the metric tensor.
 
Yes, my mistake. I meant the Riemann curvature tensor.
 
What is a tensor? Really, there are two kinds of tensors. One kind of tensor is a linear operator that, for example, maps vectors to other vectors. Hence the matrices representing rotations, reflections, and the like are representations of such tensors.

The other kind of tensor represents a generalization of a vector. From the span of two vectors, you can build a plane. From three vectors, you can build a volume, and so on. Some tensors represent these objects.

For both kinds of tensors, there is a transformation law based on the idea that a change of coordinates should not change the tensor itself--new coordinates may change the components, but the overall object should remain unchanged. It is this common transformation law (of the components) that is why both types of tensors--the linear operators and the generalization of vectors--are typically lumped together.
 

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