Deflection of Cantilever Beam Arrangement

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The discussion revolves around calculating the downward vertical deflection of a cantilever beam arrangement, specifically focusing on a scenario where two cantilever beams are fixed at one end and connected by a prop at the other end. Participants explore the implications of loading conditions and constraints on the deflection calculations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks to calculate the deflection of the bottom beam under a point load and notes a discrepancy in their results compared to an expected formula.
  • Another participant questions the constraints of the connection between the two beams, suggesting that the type of joint (pin jointed or built-in) may affect the calculations.
  • A participant provides an alternative formula for maximum deflection, indicating that the original formula used by the first participant may not apply to a load positioned at mid-span.
  • There is a discussion about the derivation of the deflection formula, with one participant expressing a desire to understand the reasoning behind the equations used.
  • Another participant shares a detailed derivation of the deflection equation using curvature and boundary conditions, leading to a confirmation of the expected result.

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Participants express differing views on the appropriate formulas to use for the deflection calculations, and there is no consensus on the correct approach or the assumptions involved in the calculations.

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Some participants note the importance of understanding the constraints and loading conditions, which may not be fully defined in the original problem statement. The discussion highlights the complexity of beam deflection calculations and the need for careful consideration of parameters.

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This discussion may be useful for students and professionals in engineering and physics who are interested in structural analysis, particularly in understanding beam deflection under various loading conditions.

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If two cantilever beams are fixed at Left Hand Side (LHS) and joined to each other by means of a prop at RHS, how do i calculate the downwards vertical deflection of the bottom beam?

The solution i need to prove is (5WL^3)/(48EI)-top deflection.

However, i always seem to get a 7 where there should be a 5!

Any clues as to where i am going wrong?

The beams are of length L, the prop length a.
There is a point force on the bottom beam of magnitude W, downwards, at L/2 m.

I already have calculated the downwards vertical deflection of the top beam to be (d of top)= (PL^3)/(3EI)
Where P= load in prop
EI=constant
 

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Can we see the full question?
 
A quick guess would be that you've got your constraints wrong on the little link which joins the two beams. Are those supposed to be pin jointed or built in?
 
It simply states in the question that the distance, a, between the beams is maintained by a prop of diameter, d.
 
The deflection you stated for the top beam is for a concentrated load at the end of the cantilevered beam, not the mid span.

\delta_m = \frac{Pa^2}{6EI}(3L-a)

Where:
\delta_m = Max deflection
P = Concentrated load at any point of application
a = Distance from cantilever end to load P
L = Total length of beam
E = Young's modulus
I = Area moment of inertia

For your case:

\delta_m = \frac{W(\frac{L}{2})^2}{6EI}(3L-\frac{L}{2})

\delta_m = \frac{WL^2}{24EI}(\frac{6L}{2}-\frac{L}{2})

\delta_m = \frac{6WL^3}{48EI}-\frac{WL^3}{48EI}

\delta_m = \frac{5WL^3}{48EI}
 
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why is it that for the maximum deflection it is (3L-L/2) rather than just (L-L/2)?

I want to understand what is going on as well as getting the correct answer.
 
Admittedly, that is simply the equation I remember for a cantilever beam with a load anywhere along it's span. I will have to dig up it's derivation later. Give me some time and I'll find it (unless someone else can do it first).
 
It took me a bit, but I got it (and a nice refresher in beams!):

For the following I use x as the distance from the free end of the beam to the point of load application and P as the load value.

Using the general curvature deflection equation

\frac{d^2y}{dx^2}=\frac{M(x)}{EI}

EI\frac{d^2y}{dx^2}=-Px

EI\frac{dy}{dx}=-\frac{1}{2}Px^2 + C_1
Using the B.C.'s at the cantilever (pt. B) x=L and dy/dx=0 we get:

C_1 =\frac{1}{2}PL^2 and that leads to:

EI\frac{dy}{dx}=-\frac{1}{2}Px^2 +\frac{1}{2}PL^2

EI Y =-\frac{1}{6}Px^3 +\frac{1}{2}PL^2x +C_2
Using the B.C.'s @ pt. B again, we have Y=0 and x=L we get:

C_2 = -\frac{1}{3}PL^3 and that now leads to:

EI Y =-\frac{1}{6}Px^3 +\frac{1}{2}PL^2x -\frac{1}{3}PL^3

We use that equation for the situation of the bottom beam, x=L/2:

EI Y =-\frac{1}{6}P(\frac{L}{2})^3 +\frac{1}{2}PL^2(\frac{L}{2}) -\frac{1}{3}PL^3

After a little algebra...
EI Y = (-\frac{1}{48}+\frac{1}{4}-\frac{1}{3})PL^3

EI Y = (-\frac{1}{48}+\frac{12}{48}-\frac{16}{48})PL^3

Y = -\frac{5PL^3}{48EI}

You can now go back and substitute x=0 for the top beam to get the second part of the deflection for the top beam.

Sorry I took so long.
 
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Thank you so much... you've been really helpful!
 

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