Depth of a well (using speed of sound)

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The discussion centers on calculating the depth of a well based on the time it takes for a stone to fall and the sound of the splash to return. The speed of sound is influenced by air temperature, with a formula provided for its calculation. The key misunderstanding is that the time for the stone to hit the water and the time for the sound to travel back are not equal, as the stone accelerates while falling. The correct depth of the well is determined to be 18.5 meters, contrasting with an incorrect calculation of 337.01 meters based on flawed assumptions. A two-part problem approach is necessary to accurately solve for the well's depth.
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Homework Statement


A stone is dropped from rest into a well. Th sound of the splash is heard exactly 2.00 s later. Find the depth of the well if the air temperature is 10.0 degrees Celsius.

Homework Equations


  • How does the speed of sound play a role in this?
  • How can I find the depth?

The Attempt at a Solution


I used v= [(331)*sqrt(1 + T/273)]. If v = (lambda)/t, then won't lambda equal [(331)*sqrt(1 + T/273)] * t?
I assumed that t would equal 1 s because it takes 1 s for the stone to hit the bottom and 1 s for the echo to be heard (2s total). Is that a correct assumption? As a result, my answer was that lambda = 337.01 m but the correct well depth were supposed to be 18.5 m...

What did I do wrong?
 
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The stone accelerates as it falls, starting from zero speed. It takes some time to fall to the bottom of the well. The sound it makes when it hits the water travels back up the well at the speed of sound, which is a constant speed and much faster than the stone ever was moving. So the time for the two paths (stone falling, sound rising) is not the same.
 
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If it took the same time for the stone to hit the water as it took for the sound to reach you, that means that the stone broke the speed of sound!

You need an equation to account for the position of the stone as a function of time.
 
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The main problem is that I am not sure why the depth is 18.5 m while I had solved for lambda and got 337.01 m. What did I do wrong in terms of substitution into the equation?
 
You don't know how long it took for the sound travel up the well. You have to find at what time the stone hit the bottom.
 
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The main problem is that I am not sure why the depth is 18.5 m while I had solved for lambda and got 337.01 m. What did I do wrong in terms of substitution into the equation?
You right if you're using echo as distance measurement.
 
Dr Claude has your answer. It is a two part problem. You must solve part 1 first.
 
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