Kinematics/speed of sound question

In summary, to find the depth of a well when a stone is dropped and the splash is heard 3s later, you can use the constant acceleration equations and the speed of sound to be 343 m/s. By setting up a quadratic equation, you can solve for the distance traveled by the stone and the sound wave and find the depth of the well to be approximately 40.7m.
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Homework Statement


A stone is dropped in a well. The splash is heard 3s later. What is the depth of the well?

Homework Equations


constant acceleration equations
take speed of sound to be 343 m/s.

The Attempt at a Solution


For the stone:
u = 0
a = g
s = ut + 0.5at^2

subbing it all in you get t_stone = +sqrt(2s/g)

For the sound wave:
u = v = 343 m/s
v = s/t
subbing it all in you get
t_wave = s/343

(same distance traveled for stone and wave = s)

so you have t_stone + t_wave = 3

therefore
+sqrt(2s/g) + s/343 = 3
squaring both sides and moving over the constant
(s^2/343^2) + 2s/g - 9 = 0

solving this quadratic I get s = 44.02m or -24054m

The answer is 40.7m. Where did I go wrong?
 
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Check the step where you squared both sides of the equation. Note (a + b)2 ≠ a2 + b2 in general.

It might be good to isolate the square root on one side of the equation before squaring the equation.
 
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TSny said:
Check the step where you squared both sides of the equation. Note (a + b)2 ≠ a2 + b2 in general.

It might be good to isolate the square root on one side of the equation before squaring the equation.

Oops. Nice spot. Thanks for the help!
 
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OK. Another approach would be to let ##x = \sqrt{s}## and write your equation sqrt(2s/g) + s/343 = 3 as a quadratic equation in terms of ##x##. You will then not have to square the equation. Solve for ##x## and then find ##s##.
 

What is kinematics?

Kinematics is the branch of physics that studies the motion of objects without considering the forces that cause the motion. It describes the position, velocity, and acceleration of an object over time.

How is speed of sound measured?

The speed of sound is typically measured by using a device called a sound level meter. This device measures the sound pressure level and calculates the speed of sound based on the temperature and humidity of the air.

What factors affect the speed of sound?

The speed of sound is affected by the temperature, humidity, and density of the medium through which it is traveling. It also varies depending on the type of medium, such as air, water, or solids.

How is the speed of sound calculated?

The speed of sound can be calculated using the equation v = √(γRT), where v is the speed of sound, γ is the ratio of specific heats, R is the gas constant, and T is the temperature in Kelvin.

Why does the speed of sound change with altitude?

The speed of sound changes with altitude because the temperature and density of the air decrease as altitude increases. This results in a decrease in the speed of sound, as it is directly proportional to temperature and inversely proportional to density.

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