Derivative implicit differentiation problem

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The discussion focuses on finding the derivative dy/dx for the curve defined by the equation 2(x+1)^(tanx)=(y^2)cosx+y. The user attempts to apply implicit differentiation and logarithmic properties but encounters algebraic errors. The correct derivative is established as dy/dx = [2(x+1)^(tanx)[sec^2xln(x+1)+(tanx)/(x+1)]+(y^2)(sinx)]/(2ycosx+1). Key insights include the importance of correctly applying logarithmic differentiation and maintaining clarity in algebraic expressions.

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  • Understanding of implicit differentiation
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Homework Statement



Consider the curve satisfying the equation 2(x+1)^(tanx)=(y^2)cosx+y and find dy/dx

Homework Equations


(tanx)'=sec^2x
(lnx)'=1/x

The Attempt at a Solution



I've tried taking the natural log of both sides and then taking d/dx of both sides but something seems to go wrong with my algebra each time.. that or I'm getting confused about my natural log / implicit differentiation rules. I'm not actually sure if I'm approaching the problem correctly but here's one of the many attempts I've made:

ln2 + tanxln(x+1) = 2lny + lncosx + lny(??)
1/2 + sec^2xln(x+1) + tanx(1/x+1) = 2y'/y + sin(x)/cos(x) + y'/y
something should already be wrong so i won't post the rest of the work but i know the answer is supposed to be dy/dx = [2(x+1)^(tanx)[sec^2xln(x+1)+(tanx)/(x+1)]+(y^2)(sinx)]/ all over (2ycosx+1). Need help getting there, thanks!
 
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It looks like you tried to distribute the natural log over addition, which doesn't work. The left hand side is fine, but the right hand side should be
\ln (y^2 \cos(x) + y)
Or I suppose you could divide out the y from the original expression, but that won't really help, seeing as you'd just have to combine the two fractions you get after differentiating.
 
The hard part for you seems to be differentiating (x+1)^tan(x). f(x)^g(x)=e^(ln(f(x))*g(x)) since f(x)=e^(ln(f(x)). Try differentiating it in that form.
 
Once I have the right side down to 1/y^2(cosx+y) [?] how do I find dy/dx?
 
laylas said:
Once I have the right side down to 1/y^2(cosx+y) [?] how do I find dy/dx?

If you have the right side down to " 1/y^2(cosx+y) " ... Where did dy/dx go, and what is in the numerator & what in the denominator?

By the way: 1/y^2(cosx+y) literally is the same as (cosx+y)/y2 . It helps to use enough parentheses to say what you mean
 

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