Derivative of Cosine with unit vector

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The discussion revolves around the differentiation of a wave equation involving a cosine function, specifically focusing on the expression E(r,t) = E0cos(k(u·r−ct)+φ), where u is a unit vector. The problem involves understanding how to handle the unit vector and the variables during differentiation.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the nature of the unit vector and its treatment as a constant during differentiation. There is a discussion about the implications of holding certain variables constant while differentiating with respect to time. Questions arise regarding the definition of the unit vector and the notation used for r.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and questioning the assumptions made about the variables involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the treatment of the unit vector and the constants in the equation, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach yet.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the notation used for r, with participants noting that it may represent different concepts in the context of the problem. This ambiguity is contributing to the complexity of the discussion.

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Homework Statement


Take ∂2E/∂t2 E(r,t)=E0cos((k(u^·r−ct)+φ) in which u^ is a unit vector.

Homework Equations


d/dx(cosx)=-sinx

The Attempt at a Solution


I had calc 3 four years ago and can't for the life of me remember how to differentiate the unit vector. I came up with -c2u2^cos(k(u^r-ct)+φ), but I feel like I'm not doing that right.
 
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I think in this equation ##\hat u## is a constant in time. It's the direction of motion of this wave. And ##r## is held constant when doing the partial with respect to ##t##. So you don't need to differentiate it, just treat ##\hat u \cdot r## as a constant, which it is.
 
RPinPA said:
I think in this equation ##\hat u## is a constant in time. It's the direction of motion of this wave. And ##r## is held constant when doing the partial with respect to ##t##. So you don't need to differentiate it, just treat ##\hat u \cdot r## as a constant, which it is.
Ah I made a mistake. I meant to write ∂2E/∂r2
 
How is the unit vector defined? Unit vector in what direction?
 
Blue Kangaroo said:
Ah I made a mistake. I meant to write ∂2E/∂r2
You're using the symbol r to stand for different things, so it's not clear what you're trying to do.

There's the vector ##\vec r##, which is apparently what appears in the argument of the cosine. It wouldn't make sense to write ##r\cdot \hat u## since ##r=|\vec r|## isn't a vector. On the other hand, you say you're trying to calculate ##\partial^2 E/\partial r^2##. Is ##r## here the magnitude of ##\vec{r}##?
 

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