Derivative of the exponential function with base e

Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the derivative of the exponential function with base e, exploring various methods to derive the Napier constant (e) and its properties. Participants examine the mathematical foundations and limits associated with exponential functions, particularly in the context of differentiation.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a derivation of the derivative of the exponential function and suggests that if the gradient at the y-axis intersection equals 1, then the base a is e.
  • Another participant references Wikipedia as a resource for various methods to determine the value of e, implying a need for further exploration of these derivations.
  • A different participant outlines a limit-based approach to derive e, showing that the derivative of e^x is e^x and connecting it to the limit definition of e as n approaches infinity.
  • One participant expresses appreciation for the insights shared, indicating that the discussion has been inspiring.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion includes multiple approaches to understanding the derivative of the exponential function and the derivation of e, with no consensus on a single method or derivation being established.

Contextual Notes

Participants rely on various mathematical definitions and limit processes, but there are unresolved assumptions regarding the derivations and the definitions of the functions involved.

Yh Hoo
Messages
73
Reaction score
0
For an exponential function of the form y=a^x
First derivative , d/dx [a^x ] = a^x∙ lim┬(δx→0)⁡{(a^δx-a^0)/δx}
= a^x∙ m_((0,1))
now if m_((0,1)) which is the gradient of the y-axis intersection point of the exponential function equal to 1 exactly, then the derivative will be unchanged under differentiation and the value of the base a is then considered as e (Napier constant/natural number) .
IS there any derivation to get to the napier constant??
 
Physics news on Phys.org
If I understand your question, one way is this: for [itex]f(x)= a^x[/itex] we have
[tex]\frac{f(x+h)- f(x)}{h}= \frac{a^{x+h}- a^x}{h}= \frac{a^xa^h- a^x}{h}= a<br /> ^x\frac{a^h- 1}{h}[/tex]

Now, if we take the limit as h goes to 0, we have
[tex]\frac{da^x}{dx}= a^x\lim_{h\to 0}\frac{a^h- 1}{h}[/tex]

So we will have the very nice property that [itex]de^x/dx= e^x[/itex] if and only if
[tex]\lim_{h\to 0}\frac{e^h- 1}{h}= 1[/tex]

Now, turn that around. I will just give a rough argument here- for h very close to 0, that limit says that [itex](e^h- 1)/h= 1[/itex], approximately. Then [itex]e^h- 1= h[/itex], approximately. From that, [itex]e^h= 1+ h[/itex], approximately, so that [itex]e= (1+ h)^{1/h}[/itex]. If we let n= 1/h, n goes to infinity as h goes to 0 and so the approximation [itex]e= (1+ 1/n)^n[/itex] becomes exact as n goes to infinity:
[tex]e= \lim_{n\to\infty}\left(1+ \frac{1}{n}\right)^n[/tex]
the "standard" limit definition of n.

Personally, I prefer to start by defining [itex]ln(x)= \int_1^x dt/t[/itex], then defining exp(x) to be the inverse function to ln(x), finally showing that [itex]exp(x)= exp(1)^x= e^x[/itex] where e is now defined to be the value of x such that ln(x)= 1.
 
Thanks a lot! you really inspiring me!
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 12 ·
Replies
12
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
4K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
3K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 38 ·
2
Replies
38
Views
5K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
1K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
3K
  • · Replies 16 ·
Replies
16
Views
3K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
3K