Derivatives of integrals and inverse functions

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The discussion revolves around finding the derivatives of two functions: the first involves the derivative of the arccosine function with a polynomial argument, and the second involves differentiating an integral with variable limits and a trigonometric integrand.

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  • Participants explore the application of the chain rule for the derivative of the arccosine function and question the correctness of their initial attempts. There is also uncertainty regarding how to handle the integral when the upper limit is a variable and involves a trigonometric function.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the derivative of the arccosine function and the treatment of the integral. There is an ongoing exploration of how to differentiate the integral correctly, with various interpretations being discussed.

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Participants express confusion about whether to treat certain components as constants and how to properly apply differentiation rules to integrals with variable limits. There is a mention of specific homework constraints and the need to follow particular derivative rules.

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Homework Statement



Find the derivative of:

[itex]1. f(x)=arccos(5x^3)[/itex]

[itex]2. f(x)=∫cos(5x)sin(5t)dt[/itex] when the integral is from 0 to x


Homework Equations



Chain rule, dy/dx=dy/du*du/dx

The Attempt at a Solution



For the first one, I can just take 5x^3 as u and then apply the chain rule to get

[itex]-15x^2/\sqrt{1-5x^3}[/itex]

but maple TA keeps telling me that it's incorrect...

As for the second one, I'm not sure how to approach something like that when x is actually in the integral, as in the cos(5x). I mean, when I'm applying the chain rule...do I have to include cos in my choice of u?
 
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phosgene said:

Homework Statement



Find the derivative of:

[itex]1. f(x)=arccos(5x^3)[/itex]

[itex]2. f(x)=∫cos(5x)sin(5t)dt[/itex] when the integral is from 0 to x

Homework Equations



Chain rule, dy/dx=dy/du*du/dx

The Attempt at a Solution



For the first one, I can just take 5x^3 as u and then apply the chain rule to get

[itex]-15x^2/\sqrt{1-5x^3}[/itex]

but maple TA keeps telling me that it's incorrect...

As for the second one, I'm not sure how to approach something like that when x is actually in the integral, as in the cos(5x). I mean, when I'm applying the chain rule...do I have to include cos in my choice of u?

Check the derivative of arccos again.
[tex]\frac{d}{dx}cos^{-1}x=\frac{-1}{\sqrt{1-x^2}}[/tex]

As for the second one, when you have something like this:
[tex]\int_{g(x)}^{h(x)} f(t)dt[/tex]
It's derivative is equal to
[tex]f(g(x)) \cdot g'(x)-f(h(x)) \cdot h'(x)[/tex]
 
Ah, so the derivative of the first one should be

[itex]-15x^2/\sqrt{1-25x^6}[/itex]?
 
phosgene said:
Ah, so the derivative of the first one should be

[itex]-15x^2/\sqrt{1-25x^6}[/itex]?

Yep! :smile:
 
Thanks. But for the second one, does it mean that I can just treat the cos(5x) as a constant? i.e. I only have to multiply by the derivative of x?

I know what to do if I have something like

[itex]d/dx∫cos(5t)sin(5t)dt[/itex], where the integral is from 0 to x. I just differentiate by basically putting the x into the ts to get

[itex]cos(5x)sin(5x)[/itex]

But when the cos5t in the integral becomes cos5x, do I just do this?

[itex]cos(5x)sin(5x)*(d/dx)x=cos(5x)sin(5x)[/itex]
 
phosgene said:
Thanks. But for the second one, does it mean that I can just treat the cos(5x) as a constant?
Yep, just take out the cos(5x) from the integral.
You are left with
[tex]f(x)=cos(5x) \int_{0}^{x} sin(5t)dt[/tex]
You can either differentiate by the chain rule or better, solve the integral, put the limits and differentiate.
 
Great, I finally got it, thanks again :)
 
phosgene said:
Thanks. But for the second one, does it mean that I can just treat the cos(5x) as a constant? i.e. I only have to multiply by the derivative of x?

I know what to do if I have something like

[itex]d/dx∫cos(5t)sin(5t)dt[/itex], where the integral is from 0 to x. I just differentiate by basically putting the x into the ts to get

[itex]cos(5x)sin(5x)[/itex]

But when the cos5t in the integral becomes cos5x, do I just do this?

[itex]cos(5x)sin(5x)*(d/dx)x=cos(5x)sin(5x)[/itex]

Don't forget, [itex]\displaystyle \int_{0}^{x} \sin(5t)dt[/itex] is a function of x, so you have to take that into account when you differentiate [itex]\displaystyle \cos(5x)\int_{0}^{x} \sin(5t)dt\ .[/itex]
 

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