Archived Derive the general solution for current in a lossless transmission line

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The discussion focuses on deriving the general solution for current I(z,t) in a lossless transmission line, starting from the voltage equation V(z,t) and using the provided equations. The user attempts to integrate and differentiate the equations but encounters difficulties in progressing towards the known solution I(z,t) = (1/Z0)[f+(t-z/vp) + f-(t+z/vp)], where Z0 = √(L/C). Guidance is provided to substitute the voltage equation into the current equation, apply derivatives using the chain rule, and integrate with respect to time. The importance of incorporating all relevant equations, including the second equation relating voltage and current, is emphasized. The conversation also touches on the possibility of deriving solutions from Maxwell's equations for a deeper understanding of electric fields in transmission lines.
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Homework Statement



Find the general solution for the current I(z,t) associated with the voltage V(z,t).Do this by substituting [1] into [2] and [3], integrate with respect to time, and then take the derivative with respect to z.

Homework Equations



V(z,t)= f+(t-z/vp) + f-(t+z/vp) [1] where f is some arbitrary function.

∂V/∂z= -L(∂I/∂t) [2]

∂I/∂z= -C(∂V/∂t) [3]

The Attempt at a Solution



Ok,so I tried starting with [3] and integrating with respect to time: ∫(∂I/∂z)∂t= ∫(-C(∂V/∂t))∂t
which gives (I think) V=-1/C ∫(∂I/∂z)∂t

now differentiating this with respect to z: ∂V/∂z= ∂/∂z[-1/C ∫(∂I/∂z)∂t]

and substituting the RHS of this into [2]:∂/∂z[-1/C ∫(∂I/∂z)∂t]=-L(∂I/∂t)

now I'm stuck and not sure where to go from here. The solution is the well known equation
I(z,t)= (1/Z0)[f+(t-z/vp) + f-(t+z/vp)] where Z0=√(L/C)

I would appreciate knowing the steps to get there.

Thanks very much
 
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1. Substitute [1] into [3]. (Note: how do you know that equation 1 is a valid solution?)
2. Take derivatives. You will need to use the chain rule.
3. Integrate this equation with respect to t (you need to use a u-substitution but it is trivial).

This will give you the equation for I, but your above answer for I has something wrong about it. Also, you will need to use the value of v in terms of L and C.

Finally, it seems like we ignored equation 2. Actually, we didn't. Do you see why it is necessary?

Edit: apologies to all, just saw this was from 2013. I am not sure why it popped up in my feed.
 
It is also possible to get a solution in terms of Maxwell equations to get the second order diff. eq. for electric field.known as the field equation.
Make the resistivity zero so as to get a pure sinusoidal Tesla solution for the electric field on the transmission line.
 
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