Derive The Transfer Function from First Principles

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around deriving the Transfer Function of a specific circuit from first principles, focusing on the theoretical approach rather than established methods. The context includes elements of circuit analysis and signal processing.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests assistance in deriving the Transfer Function of a given circuit.
  • Another participant questions whether Ohm's Law is considered a first principle in this context.
  • A participant suggests a method for solving the problem by replacing circuit elements with general impedances and applying Kirchhoff's Current Law (KCL).
  • Concerns are raised about the appropriateness of the problem given the participant's background in circuit analysis.
  • A suggestion is made to utilize online resources for learning basic circuit concepts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the adequacy of the participant's background for tackling the problem, with some emphasizing the need for foundational knowledge in circuit analysis. There is no consensus on the best approach to derive the Transfer Function.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the lack of foundational circuit analysis knowledge may hinder the derivation process. The discussion also reflects varying opinions on the classification of Ohm's Law as a first principle.

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I need help deriving the Transfer Function of this circuit from first principles.

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Do you consider Ohm's Law first principle ?
 
anorlunda said:
Do you consider Ohm's Law first principle ?
Yes
 
Ok, have you learned about basic circuit analysis, series and parallel combinations?

If this is homework, it should be posted in the homework forum and use the template.
 
In short, No. No intro of circuit analysis and parallel/series combinations. Basically given this with one previous example and told to go figure it out. This is for a course in Signal Analysis.

Thanks Anorlunda, I will post it there.
 
Simplest way to attack this (i.e. how I would attack a similar problem at work).

1. Replace all devices with a general impedance (call it, for example, Z, so R1 = Z1, R2 = Z2, L = Z3, C = Z4.)
2. Solve the now trivial three-node voltage divider problem using KCL.
3. Replace all the Zs with their actual impedences (e.g. Z1 = R1, Z2 = R2, Z3 = sL, Z4 = 1/sC)
4. Simplify the expression and you're done!
 
That's not nice for the teacher to give you that problem without the proper background.

If you are only interested in this problem, use @analogdesign 's advice in post #6. But basic circuits is something you'll surely need in your career. It is worth your time to learn it. A very effective and fast way to learn is using Khan Academy. It takes less than 5 hours there to learn a whole basic circuits course.

https://www.khanacademy.org/science/physics/circuits-topic#circuits-resistance
 
Schoolwork thread in the EE forum is closed.
 

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