Deriving Electric Field Inside and Outside an Infinitely Long Charged Cylinder

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The discussion revolves around deriving the electric field inside and outside an infinitely long charged cylinder with a charge density that varies with radius, specifically given by ρ(r) = ρo r. Participants are tasked with applying Gauss's Law to find expressions for the electric field in two regions: inside the cylinder (rR).

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of Gauss's Law and the setup of Gaussian surfaces for both inside and outside the cylinder. There are questions about the integration process for finding total charge within the Gaussian surface and clarifications on notation used in equations.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided feedback on the clarity of notation and the integration steps involved in the solution attempts. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct expressions for the electric field, with hints and suggestions being shared to guide the original poster in refining their approach.

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Participants note issues with the clarity of the original post due to formatting problems when pasting equations. There is also a mention of checking another thread for additional hints related to the problem.

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Not sure if this is advanced. Highly doubt it but oh well

1. Homework Statement
Consider an infinitely long charged cylinder of radius R, carrying a charge whose density varies with radius as ρ(r) = ρo r. Derive expressions for the electric field (a) inside the cylinder (i.e. r<R), and (b) outside the cylinder (i.e. r>R).

2. Homework Equations
Gauss's Law
q=ρ δτ

3. The Attempt at a Solution
(a) E inside cylinder
I sketched a Gaussian surface inside of the cylinder.
I believe that E is parallel to ds ( E⃗ ||ds⃗ )
So, gauss's law becomes E∮ds = q/ϵ for the side

I believe the integral of ds is 2π r L (L being the length of the cylinder even though it is infinite.
And q = ρo r π r2 L
derived from q=ρ δτ

So we have E (2π r L) = ρo r π r2 L /ϵ
Simplifying to E = ρo r2/ 2ϵ

Is this correct for (a)?
And for (b) would it be the same idea but with a gaussian surface outside of R?

Thanks!
 
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It's a bit difficult to read your notation. Consider using Latex for your equations.

(For example: [itex]q = \int \rho dv[/itex].)

Show again how you integrated to find the total charge within your gaussian surface.
 
wolski888 said:
Not sure if this is advanced. Highly doubt it but oh well

1. Homework Statement
Consider an infinitely long charged cylinder of radius R, carrying a charge whose density varies with radius as ρ(r) = ρo r. Derive expressions for the electric field (a) inside the cylinder (i.e. r<R), and (b) outside the cylinder (i.e. r>R).

2. Homework Equations
Gauss's Law
q=ρ δτ

3. The Attempt at a Solution
(a) E inside cylinder
I sketched a Gaussian surface inside of the cylinder.
I believe that E is parallel to ds ( E⃗ ||ds⃗ )
So, gauss's law becomes E∮ds = q/ϵ for the side

I believe the integral of ds is 2π r L (L being the length of the cylinder even though it is infinite.
And q = ρo r π r2 L
derived from q=ρ δτ

So we have E (2π r L) = ρo r π r2 L /ϵ
Simplifying to E = ρo r2/ 2ϵ
So close! :cry: But as Doc Al says, it's kind of hard to understand your notation. By "r2" do you mean r2? If so, try the final simplification once more. I think you forgot to cancel something out.
And for (b) would it be the same idea but with a gaussian surface outside of R?
Yes. The trick is to just be careful about determining q. When outside the cylinder, is the total charge q within the Gaussian surface a function of r or a function of R?
 
Yes I meant r squared. The thing is when i reposted this problem the pasting messed up a couple of things.
 
wolski888 said:
Yes I meant r squared. The thing is when i reposted this problem the pasting messed up a couple of things.
Right. I think I figured that out when I looked at the other thread. Check that thread. I left a hint for you there.
 

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