Determinant and trace of matrix ( HELP)

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The discussion revolves around finding the determinant and trace of a given matrix, as well as exploring the concept of eigenvalues. The original poster presents their calculations and seeks clarification on these topics.

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  • Participants discuss methods for calculating the determinant and trace, with some questioning the original poster's approach. There is also exploration of eigenvalues, including the characteristic polynomial and the relationship between matrices and eigenvalues.

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Participants have provided guidance on calculating the determinant and trace, with some confirming the correctness of the original poster's calculations. The discussion has progressed to eigenvalues, with participants exploring the necessary steps to demonstrate that a specific value is an eigenvalue.

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There is mention of the original poster's uncertainty regarding eigenvalues and the characteristic polynomial, indicating a learning process in a new topic area. The discussion includes attempts to clarify definitions and methods without reaching a final consensus on all points.

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FInd the determinant of the following matrix?

4,-4,-8
-2, 2, 6
0, 0,-1




Heres my attempt

4.(2x(-1)- 6x0) -(-4).((-2)x(-1) - 6x0) +(-8).((-2)x0-2x0)

which goves:

4.(-2)+4(2) -8 = 0

is this correct??

Im also asked to find the trace? What is this and how do i find it?
Thanks
 
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Yes, this is correct. However, it could have been done easier if you had take the third row to calculate the determinant. Then you would see immediately that the determinant is (-1)(4.2-(-2)(-4))=0.

The trace is simply the sum of the diagonal elements.
 
Ah ok Thanks micromass. For the trace I obtained:

4+2-1 = 5 Which is simple enough.

Now I am asked to show that 6 is an eigenvalue of the matrix. How would I go about doing that? This is a new topic for me so I am struggling a little. Thnks
 
What do you know about eigenvalues? Do you know what the characteristic polynomial is?
 
Not much at the moment I am afraid? I don't know what the characteristic polynomial is??
 
Then you'll just have to do it the hard way. Let A be our matrix. You'll need to show that there exists a vector x such that Ax=6x. This is equivalent to saying that (A-6I)x=0. Thus you must show that the system (A-6I)x=0 has a non-zero solution...
 
Ok so by I u mean an identity matrix??
 
Yes, I is the identity matrix!
 
So I have to basically subtract an identity matrix of:

6,0,0
0,6,0
0,0,6

as it is 6I from my matrix??

Im I on the rite track?
 
  • #10
Yes, substract those two matrices, and then solve the associated system of equations...
 
  • #11
ok from that I get the matrix:

-2,-4,-8
-2,-4, 6
0, 0,-7

using previous determinant method I obtain:

-2(28) + 4(14) -8(0)

= 0

is this correct??
 
  • #12
Yes, this is correct. So, what does a determinant 0 tell you?
 
  • #13
Erm that there exists a non zero solution?
 
  • #14
Yes, so you have shown that 6 is an eigenvalue!
 
  • #15
Brilliant thanks micromass. Just another question say I am asked to find the eigen value of the following matrix:

2,1
1,2

Do I simply do (A-lambda I) = det (2-Lambda 1
1 1-Lambba)

giving me:

(lambda)^2 -4(Lambda) +3 = 0

lambda = 1 lambda = 3

which are the eigenvalues?
 
  • #16
Yes, that is correct. In fact, the polynomial \lambda^2-4\lambda+3 is called the characteristic polynomial. It seems that you came up with that concept by yourself! :smile:
 
  • #17
Haha ok thanks micromass.
 
  • #18
I have one final question micromass, using the fact 6 is an eigenvalue and the determinant how would I find the remaining eigenvalues?
 

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