Determine Convergent or Divergent

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The discussion revolves around determining the convergence or divergence of the sequence defined by an = [cos(3n)] / [n·cos(1/n)]. Participants are exploring the behavior of this sequence as n approaches infinity.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to analyze the limit of the sequence and suggests it converges to zero based on their interpretation of cos(3n). Some participants question this reasoning, particularly regarding the oscillatory nature of cos(3n) and its impact on convergence.
  • Participants discuss the implications of bounding cos(3n) and suggest alternative forms for the denominator, raising questions about the limit of 1/cos(1/n) as n approaches infinity.
  • There is a mention of the squeeze theorem and its potential application, as well as the importance of sign changes in the context of convergence.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with various interpretations being explored. Some participants provide guidance on alternative approaches and highlight the complexity of the problem, indicating that it may not be straightforward. There is no explicit consensus on the convergence of the sequence at this time.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the distinction between sequences and series, with some confusion arising from the original poster's terminology. The oscillatory behavior of cos(3n) and its implications for convergence are under scrutiny.

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an = [cos (3n) )] /n.cos(1/n) My solution is , I wrote an as

liman→∞ [cos (3n) )] /[ cos(1/n) / (1/n) ) .

We get liman→∞ cos(3n) / ( 1/0 ) .

I think solution of this limit is zero but ı'm not sure cos(3n) .I think cos(3n) as a number and number/infinity is zero .As a result of this ı say it is a convergent.

Is the correct approach to the question ?
 
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You know that cos n ≤ 1 for any n, so cos(3n) ≤ 1 and cos(3n)/n ≤ 1/n

For the denominator I wouldn't write it as cos(1/n) / (1/n). Try thinking of 1/(n·cos(1/n)) as (1/n)·(1/cos(1/n))

What's the limit of 1/cos(1/n) as n→∞?
 
Bohrok said:
You know that cos n ≤ 1 for any n, so cos(3n) ≤ 1 and cos(3n)/n ≤ 1/n

For the denominator I wouldn't write it as cos(1/n) / (1/n). Try thinking of 1/(n·cos(1/n)) as (1/n)·(1/cos(1/n))

What's the limit of 1/cos(1/n) as n→∞?

I don't think it is as simple as the OP indicates. Of course, for large n we can consider cos(1/n) to be essentially 1, so we almost have cos(3^n)/n --> 0. However, the sign changes due to cos(3^n) is very important; as n grows there is increasingly rapid oscillation in sign.

RGV
 
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Use the squeeze theorem on [itex]\frac{\cos(3^n)}{n}[/itex], then evaluate [itex]\frac{1}{\cos(1/n)}[/itex]. Using the properties of limits: [itex]\lim (a.b)=\lim a . \lim b[/itex], you should get the answer.
 
sharks said:
Use the squeeze theorem on [itex]\frac{\cos(3^n)}{n}[/itex], then evaluate [itex]\frac{1}{\cos(1/n)}[/itex]. Using the properties of limits: [itex]\lim (a.b)=\lim a . \lim b[/itex], you should get the answer.

No, it won't. The series sum 1/n diverges, but the series sum (-1)^n/n converges, so the sign changes are vital. In the current problem there are rapid sign changes (due to oscillation in cos(3^n)), but it is not clear whether the series alternates in any sense (that is, with any kind of nice pattern). I really do believe the problem is non-trivial.

RGV
 
Ray Vickson said:
No, it won't. The series sum 1/n diverges, but the series sum (-1)^n/n converges, so the sign changes are vital. In the current problem there are rapid sign changes (due to oscillation in cos(3^n)), but it is not clear whether the series alternates in any sense (that is, with any kind of nice pattern). I really do believe the problem is non-trivial.

RGV

But the problem involves sequence [itex]a_n[/itex] not series.
 
sharks said:
But the problem involves sequence [itex]a_n[/itex] not series.

OK, then it's easy. I guess I thought the OP was doing what so many others have done, viz., saying sequence they mean series. I should just have taken him at his word.

RGV
 

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