Determine the angle between the force and the line

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To determine the angle between the force and line OC, the discussion emphasizes using vector coordinates instead of triangles. The coordinates for vectors AB and OC are established as AB: (12,0,0) to (0,24,8) and OC: (0,0,0) to (12,24,0). The dot product of the vectors is calculated to find the angle, resulting in θ = cos⁻¹(432/751), which equals approximately 54.96 degrees. Additionally, a question arises about the relationship between coordinates and forces, particularly in interpreting the magnitude of forces in relation to vector lengths. The conversation effectively clarifies the method for calculating the angle using vector components.
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Homework Statement


Just have to determine the angle between the force and the line "OC".
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Homework Equations


\vec{P} \bullet \vec{Q}=PQcos(\alpha) ??


The Attempt at a Solution


I tried using different triangles to find the angle but couldn't come up with one.

I "moved" the 12X24 box down the x-axis so OC starts from the tail of the vector.

Am I supposed to use Fxy some way?

Thanks for your help, I've been working on this for a couple hours now..
 
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Hi frozenguy! :wink:

Forget triangles, use coordinates

what are the coordinates of the vectors AB and OC ? :smile:
 
tiny-tim said:
Hi frozenguy! :wink:

Forget triangles, use coordinates

what are the coordinates of the vectors AB and OC ? :smile:

Hi tiny-tim!
Thanks for taking a look!

Ok, so for AB, the coordinates are (12,0,0), (0,24,8)
OC=> (0,0,0), (12,24,0)

Then I can say that the components of the lines are AB: <-12,24,8> OC:<12,24,0>

Doting all of those gets me 432, and the product \left|AB\right|\left|OC\right|=751

Therefore, \theta=cos^{-1}(\frac{432}{751})
or, \theta=54.96 which is what the answer says!

Is this what you were referring to when you mentioned coordinates?

Also, this probably is really elementary, but what is the relation between coordinates and forces? Because sometimes that 200lb would be considered the length of the hypotenuse, but it's really only 28 in this case.

Thanks again for your help,

Frozenguy
 
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