Determine what happens to the rate of change of the population over time

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The discussion revolves around the rate of change of a population function over time, specifically analyzing the behavior of the function as time increases. Participants are examining the implications of the exponential decay term, e-t, in relation to the overall growth of the population function.

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  • Participants are questioning the correctness of sign errors in derivatives and the implications of the growth rates of the numerator and denominator in the population function. There is a focus on understanding the behavior of e-t as t increases and its effect on the function's limit as t approaches infinity.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on each other's interpretations and calculations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the derivative and the behavior of the function, but there is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the interpretations presented.

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There are noted typographical errors in the problem statement and in participants' calculations, which may affect the clarity of the discussion. The focus remains on the mathematical expressions and their implications rather than on resolving these errors.

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I'm not sure how to start question b.) I understand that I have the denominator powered to the square, it's function "grows faster" than the function in the numerator.
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ttpp1124 said:
it's function "grows faster" than the function in the numerator.
Does it grow? What happens to e-t as t increases?
Btw, you have a sign error in part a. Correction: no I had a sign error.
 
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I am not seeing this sign mistake and think your answer is correct. However it was unnecessary to use the full formula for derivative of u(x)/v(x) - since u is just a constant you only needed that for 1/v(x).

You are not thinking about the rest in quite the right way. What happens to e-t as t increases and as it becomes very large? Alternatively you get something that might be mere self-evident to you if you divide top and bottom of the fraction by e-t.
 
epenguin said:
I am not seeing this sign mistake and think your answer is correct. However it was unnecessary to use the full formula for derivative of u(x)/v(x) - since u is just a constant you only needed that for 1/v(x).

You are not thinking about the rest in quite the right way. What happens to e-t as t increases and as it becomes very large? Alternatively you get something that might be mere self-evident to you if you divide top and bottom of the fraction by e-t.
So you'll have lim t---> infinite , the function in the denominator will grow faster, so as t grows, P'(x) approaches zero. I believe another way to see this is to note that for t---> inf, P(x)---> 24, therefore reaching a constant value, with zero rate of change. My rate would be zero, right?
 
Not very convincing, in fact wrong. Firstly, rather than the denominator, what about the numerator??
 
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epenguin said:
I am not seeing this sign mistake
You are right - my mistake.
ttpp1124 said:
the function in the denominator will grow faster,
I refer you again to my question in post #2.
 
The work in post #1 has an error.
You (@ttpp1124) have ##P'(x) = \frac{0(2t + 10e^{-t}) - 48(-10e^{-t})}{(2 + 10e^{-t})^2}##.
The error is in the 2nd term in the numerator.
What's the derivative with respect to t, of ##2t + 10e^{-t}##?

Also, both P and P' are functions of time t, not x.

Edit: The type in the problem statement is so small that I didn't notice that ##\frac{48}{2 + 10e^{-t}}## there had turned into ##\frac{48}{2t + 10e^{-t}}## in the written work.
 
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There is a typo/error in the denominator of ##P(t)##, an extra ##t##, not that it matters much.
 
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