Determining Parallax Accuracy for Stellar Distances

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The discussion centers on determining the distance to stars with a 10% accuracy using parallax measurements. Participants explore the relationship between the accuracy of angle measurements and the resulting distance calculations, emphasizing that the accuracy of distance is directly tied to the precision of angle measurements. The key formula discussed is the relationship between parallax angle and distance, specifically p('')= 1/r(pc), which leads to a distance estimate of about 1000 parsecs when measuring angles to the milliarsecond. There is confusion regarding how to incorporate the 10% uncertainty into these calculations, with participants seeking clarification on the relationship between angle uncertainty and distance uncertainty. Overall, the conversation highlights the complexities of measuring stellar distances accurately through parallax.
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Homework Statement


Out to what distance in parsecs can we find the distances of stars to 10% accuracy or better; i.e., at what distance would the 1 mas accuracy of the measurements result in a 10% uncertainty in the distance? (HINT: To reasonable accuracy, the percentage uncertainty in the inverse of a quantity equals the percentage uncertainty in the quantity itself.)


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Tan(θ)= opp/adj


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My teacher tells me that this is all the information I need, this question mentioned the Hipparcos catalogue, but I was told I didn't need it. Any ideas? I know how to calculate the distance of a celestial object using parallactic angle..but how are you suppose to know the uncertainity?
 
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Hi ~Sam~! :smile:

With what accuracy can you measure angles?
 
tiny-tim said:
Hi ~Sam~! :smile:

With what accuracy can you measure angles?

I'm not quite sure I understand. Do you mean the usage of the small angle approximation? And the relative accuracy for small angles, thus distance objects?
 
To measure distance by parallax, you have to measure angles (at two different times).

The accuracy of the distance depends on the accuracy of the angles.

So how accurate are the angles?
 
tiny-tim said:
To measure distance by parallax, you have to measure angles (at two different times).

The accuracy of the distance depends on the accuracy of the angles.

So how accurate are the angles?

Sorry, I'm just not getting it, and I don't have data or anything..So I'm not sure how to determine the accuracy of the angle.
 
Ok wait, so I can accurately measure the angle to the milliarsecond. So with that we can get 1000 parsecs relatively accurate. But where does the 10 percent come into play? How would I figure that out?
 
~Sam~ said:
Ok wait, so I can accurately measure the angle to the milliarsecond.

Good.

Now what is the formula connecting the parallax angle with the distance? :smile:
 
tiny-tim said:
Good.

Now what is the formula connecting the parallax angle with the distance? :smile:

tan(θ)= opp/adj, so opp=1parsec and adj=our distance.
But more importantly there is p('')= 1/ r(pc) so r(parsecs)=1/ p(arsecs)..I could divide and get 1000pc.?

Still, I have difficulty understanding how to incorporate the 10%..or is it already incorporated with the answer being 1000pc?
 
~Sam~ said:
tan(θ)= opp/adj, so opp=1parsec and adj=our distance.

No, adj is our distance from the star, and opp is our distance from the sun (or is it twice that? :confused:).

So θ ~ tanθ = sun-distance/star-distance.

Assuming we know sun-distance extremely accurately, what is the relation between uncertainty in star-distance and uncertainty in angle?
 
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tiny-tim said:
No, adj is our distance from the star, and opp is our distance from the sun (or is it twice that? :confused:).

So θ ~ tanθ = sun-distance/star-distance.

Assuming we know sun-distance extremely accurately, what is the relation between uncertainty in star-distance and uncertainty in angle?

Since θ =sun-distance/star-distance. Then star distance= sun distance/θ. I'm not sure what you mean by uncertainty in star distance and angle (do you mean inverse proportional?). Thanks for the help so far.
 
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