Determining when a function is an element of L^2 (0,1)

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The discussion revolves around determining the values of k for which the function f(x) = x^k is an element of the L²(0,1) vector space. Participants are examining the conditions under which the integral of x^(2k) converges.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the convergence of the integral and the implications of the ratio test applied to the series representation. There are questions regarding the validity of the ratio test and its relationship to the convergence of the integral.

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Some participants have pointed out potential mistakes in reasoning, while others are exploring the relationship between the integral's convergence and the conditions on k. There is an acknowledgment of differing interpretations regarding the convergence criteria.

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There is a mention of constraints related to the values of k, particularly focusing on k > -½, and the implications of this on the integral's existence. The discussion also reflects on the nature of the infinite series and its convergence properties.

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Homework Statement


Determine for what k f(x)=xk is an element of L2 (0,1) vector space
k ∈ ℝ

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The Attempt at a Solution


[tex]\int_{0}^{1} x^{2k} dx = \frac{1-0^{2k+1}}{1+2k} = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty}{(-2k)^{n}}[/tex] (for k > -½)

This sum should converge for [tex] \lim_{n \to +\infty}<br /> {\frac{|(-2k)^{n+1}|}{|(-2k)^{n}|}} < 1<br /> =<br /> |-2k| < 1[/tex]

Which gives me a radius of convergence for
[tex]- \frac{1}{2} < k < \frac{1}{2}[/tex]

But just by examining it, the integral should exist for any k greater than negative one-half, what is wrong with my ratio test?
 
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lants said:

Homework Statement


Determine for what k f(x)=xk is an element of L2 (0,1) vector space
k ∈ ℝ

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


[tex]\int_{0}^{1} x^{2k} dx = \frac{1-0^{2k+1}}{1+2k} = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty}{(-2k)^{n}}[/tex] (for v > -½)

This sum should converge for [tex] \lim_{n \to +\infty}<br /> {\frac{|(-2k)^{n+1}|}{|(-2k)^{n}|}} < 1<br /> =<br /> |-2k| < 1[/tex]

Which gives me a radius of convergence for
[tex]- \frac{1}{2} < k < \frac{1}{2}[/tex]

But just by examining it, the integral should exist for any k greater than negative one-half, what is wrong with my ratio test?

The infinite series doesn't represent the fraction for all values of k. The series may not converge for some k but that doesn't mean the fraction's value doesn't exist.
 
Ok thanks, obvious mistake
 
I don't see your logic. The integral of [itex]x^{2k}[/itex] is the number 1/(2k+ 1) as long as that number exists. What does that have to do with whether or not there is a geometric sequence converging to it? If k= 1, which is greater than 1/2, f(x)= x which is certainly twice integrable between 0 and 1.
 
someone already responded pointing out it was wrong in an actually helpful way, and I already responded back, so move along now
 
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