Difference between physical property and physical quantity?

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The discussion revolves around the distinction between physical properties and physical quantities, exploring definitions and examples. Participants examine whether these concepts are interchangeable and how they relate to measurable phenomena in physics.

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  • The original poster (OP) questions whether physical quantities and physical properties are the same, citing a Wikipedia definition that suggests a physical quantity is a measurable aspect of a physical property.
  • One participant argues that physical properties are intrinsic to substances (e.g., density, magnetic permeability), while physical quantities represent measurable amounts (e.g., weight, volume).
  • This participant further explains that measuring a physical property does not change its nature; it remains a property, while the measurement itself is a physical quantity.
  • Another participant reflects on the OP's definition, suggesting that any physical quantity could also be considered a physical property, but raises the question of whether there are physical properties that cannot be quantified, citing physical states as an example.
  • A later reply provides examples, stating that thermal expansion is a physical property, while the thermal expansion coefficient is a physical quantity.

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Participants express differing views on the relationship between physical properties and physical quantities. Some suggest that they are distinct, while others propose that all physical quantities can be seen as physical properties. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the definitions and examples provided.

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Participants highlight potential ambiguities in definitions and the need for clarity regarding quantifiability and intrinsic characteristics of substances. The discussion does not resolve these ambiguities.

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Difference between physical property and physical quantity??

Hi I'm confused after reading the definitions of physical Quantity and physical property:

Definition from wikipedia: physical quantity= is a physical property of a phenomenon, body or substance that can be quantified by measurement.

So A coin has physical properties like mass, density, which can be quantified by measurement.
Does this mean that physical quantities and physical properties are the same thing,

Is Lenght, time and mass quantities, or are they properties of objects? And if i were to list them would I list them under quantity or property? Wikepedeas definitions have confused me.
 
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Physical properties are intrinsic to the substance: density, magnetic permeability, conductivity, etc.

Physical quantities are a measure of how much: the weight of the sample, or its volume.

You can measure any physical property - thus you can measure the density by taking a prepared sample and measuring its volume and weight. If you have many different substances you can take measurements and calculate their densities.

If the samples are prepared in a standard way you will find that the density is a physical property of the material: each will have the same density within a margin of measurement error.

The act of measurement does not make that particular measurement a "physical property"; it means that you have a method of measurement - and hence a physical quantity. So you could measure a gram or a kilogram of lead, or 127.5 grams of lead ... these are just quantities of lead. But if you also measure their volumes (e.g., via water displacement) you can divide the weight by the volume for each sample and you should obtain the same value: this is the density, and it is a physical property of lead - it has a consistent value, and hence is a property.So what do you think of mass, length, and time now? Or temperature?
 
From the OPs definition, any physical quantity is also a physical property. But I am trying to think if there are physical properties that are not quantifiable. The best I could come up with is the physical state (i.e. solid, liquid, gas, plasma). If you can't quantify it, then it's not a physical quantity.
 
Example
* Thermal expansion is a physical property
* The thermal expansion coefficient is a physical quantity.
 

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