Difference between pressure and stress

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the distinction between pressure and stress, exploring their definitions, contexts of use, and intuitive understandings. Participants examine both theoretical and conceptual aspects of these terms, considering their applications in different scenarios.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that both pressure and stress are defined as force per unit area, questioning how to intuitively distinguish between the two concepts.
  • Others argue that pressure and stress are essentially the same, with the choice of term reflecting the context rather than a fundamental difference in physics.
  • A participant emphasizes that stress is more general than pressure, suggesting that stress encompasses various types of deformation, while pressure is limited to uniform expansion or compression.
  • One participant points out that pressure can be viewed as the isotropic component of the stress tensor, indicating a mathematical relationship between the two terms.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether pressure and stress are fundamentally equivalent or distinct concepts. There is no consensus on a definitive distinction, and multiple competing perspectives remain in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include the potential ambiguity in definitions and the varying contexts in which pressure and stress are applied, which may influence interpretations and understanding.

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Both pressure and stress are defined in terms of force per unit area. Beyond that simple relationship, what might constitute a good intuitive way to distinguish these two concepts?
 
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They are basically the same thing and the terms used tend to reflect context rather than physics. You would use 'Stress' when dealing with stretching etc, pressure when dealing with gases etc.
Similar 'problems' occur with Newton.metres which can mean work or energy (Joules) or moment as in turning effect and torque
 
truesearch said:
They are basically the same thing and the terms used tend to reflect context rather than physics. You would use 'Stress' when dealing with stretching etc, pressure when dealing with gases etc.
Similar 'problems' occur with Newton.metres which can mean work or energy (Joules) or moment as in turning effect and torque

Nm is strictly a unit of Moment. The 'Newtons times metres' that is used to calculate Work is the Scalar Product of two Vectors (Force and Displacement) and Nm should never be used to describe Work of Energy.

Pressure and stress, however, are totally equivalent and it's only the context that determines which term you want to apply to a situation. (It's not really a "problem")
 
PerpStudent said:
Both pressure and stress are defined in terms of force per unit area. Beyond that simple relationship, what might constitute a good intuitive way to distinguish these two concepts?

Stress is a little more general than pressure- one intuitive way to think about stress is to think about how a square can be deformed. The square can be made larger or smaller (uniform expansion/compression), but also be sheared into a rhombus shape (and combinations of expansion with shear as well).

'stress' is the most general way to describe any deformation, while pressure is restricted to the uniform expansion/compression. Mathematically, pressure is the isotropic component of the stress tensor.
 

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