Differential calculus question (Mean value theorem)

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The discussion revolves around applying the Mean Value Theorem (MVT) to the function f(x) within the interval [0.7, x*], where x* is approximately 0.8 and f(x*) = 0. The user struggles with deriving the correct bounds for x* based on given conditions, specifically that f(0.7) = C (a negative value) and the derivative f'(x) is bounded between positive constants m1 and m2. Through the application of MVT, it is established that m1 < -C/(x* - 0.7) < m2, leading to the conclusion that x* must be bounded by 0.7 - C/m1 and 0.7 - C/m2. The user initially misinterprets the inequalities but is guided to correctly isolate x* to find the proper bounds. Understanding the algebraic manipulation of inequalities is crucial for solving similar problems.
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You are given the following information about the function f(x):
i) There is an x-value x* approximately equal to 0.8 such that f(x*)=0
ii) f(0.7) = C is negative
iii) m1 < f'(x) < m2 for 0.7 < x < 0.9 where m1 and m2 are positive constants

Apple the Mean Value Theorem to f(x) on the interval [0.7,x*] to find upper and lower bounds (in terms of m1, m2 and C) for x*


I've been really struggling to understand the MVT and have been at this question for a while... i just can't seen to work it out though and end up going round in circles :frown: I have a test coming up so i really want to try to get my head around the MVT.
 
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janiexo said:
You are given the following information about the function f(x):
i) There is an x-value x* approximately equal to 0.8 such that f(x*)=0
ii) f(0.7) = C is negative
iii) m1 < f'(x) < m2 for 0.7 < x < 0.9 where m1 and m2 are positive constants

Apple the Mean Value Theorem to f(x) on the interval [0.7,x*] to find upper and lower bounds (in terms of m1, m2 and C) for x*


I've been really struggling to understand the MVT and have been at this question for a while... i just can't seen to work it out though and end up going round in circles :frown: I have a test coming up so i really want to try to get my head around the MVT.
By the Mean Value Theorem, there exists some w between .7 and x* such that:

f&#039;(w) = \frac{f(x*) - f(.7)}{x* - .7} = \frac{0 - C}{x* - .7}

Since m1 < f'(w) < m2,

m1 &lt; \frac{- C}{x* - .7} &lt; m2

You should be able to work out the upper and lower bounds of x* from that.

AM
 
Great, that's what I did, only I keep getting the answer 0.7-C/m1 < x* < 0.7 - C/m2 but the actual answer is 0.7-C/m1 > x* > 0.7 - C/m2. I'm probably making some stupid mistake, but this is what I did:

m1 < -C/(x*-0.7) < m2
1/m1 > (x*-0.7)/-C > m2 (i changed the signs because i took the reciprocol)
-C/m1 < (x*-0.7) < -C/m2 (i changed the signs because * by a negative number)
0.7-C/m1 < x* < 0.7-C/m2

Can you tell me where I fudged up? It's probably really obvious but I can't see it :(
 
-C is positive
 
janiexo said:
Great, that's what I did, only I keep getting the answer 0.7-C/m1 < x* < 0.7 - C/m2 but the actual answer is 0.7-C/m1 > x* > 0.7 - C/m2. I'm probably making some stupid mistake, but this is what I did:

m1 < -C/(x*-0.7) < m2
1/m1 > (x*-0.7)/-C > m2 (i changed the signs because i took the reciprocol)
-C/m1 < (x*-0.7) < -C/m2 (i changed the signs because * by a negative number)
0.7-C/m1 < x* < 0.7-C/m2

Can you tell me where I fudged up? It's probably really obvious but I can't see it :(
Take each inequality separately and do the algebra to separate x*.

m1 &lt; \frac{-C}{(x*-0.7)}

x* - .7 &lt; \frac{-C}{m1}

x* &lt; .7 - \frac{C}{m1}

Similarly:

x* &gt; .7 - \frac{C}{m2}

so:
.7 - \frac{C}{m1} &gt; x* &gt; .7 - \frac{C}{m2}

AM
 
Thank you :)
 
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