Differential calculus questions

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The discussion revolves around solving differential calculus problems, specifically involving Taylor polynomials and finding extrema of functions. For the function 1/(1-x), the Taylor polynomial of degree 3 is provided, and participants seek to find an upper bound for the remainder term when x = 0.5, as well as the first three non-zero terms of the Taylor series for g(x) = 1/(4-x^2). Additionally, the maximum and minimum values of the function f(x) = x^5 - 20x + 5 are to be determined within the interval [0, 2], with emphasis on using critical points and endpoints for evaluation. The conversation highlights confusion around calculating derivatives and understanding the mean value theorem in relation to finding extrema.
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Please help.

For the function 1/(1-x) the Taylor polynomial of degree 3 about x=0 is:
p(x) = 1 + x + x^2 + x^3

a. Find an upper bound on l R(x) l if x = 0.5

b. Write down the first three non-zero terms of the Taylor series for
g(x) = 1/(4-x^2)

Is there an easier way to do b other than finding the 2nd, 3rd, etc derivatives, because I'm getting completely confused with this?

2. Let f(x) = x^5 - 20x + 5

The real solutions are +/-sqrt2

Find the maximum and minimum value of f(x) for 0 is less than or equal to x, which is less than or equal to 2.

I just can't remember how to do this.

Thank you
 
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b) Given is the taylor series for \frac{1}{1-x}. Can you fit g(x) so that it is in a similar form?

2. Do you recall the mean value theorem?
It says that in a closed interval, a continuous curve f(x) takes on a max and min value either at its critical points or endpoints. You can find the critical points by solving f'(x) = 0, as these points represent where the curve changes direction (either at a high or low point).
 
1. The "error" in using a Taylor polynomial of order n is the same form as the next, n+1, term in the Taylor series with x replaced by some unknown point. Here, the next term is just x^4 so the error is |c^4| where c is between 0 and 0.5. What is the largest possible value of that?

whozum, if you mean that the fact that a differentiable function takes on its extreme values on an interval either at the enpoints or in the interior where the derivative is 0 is result of the mean value theorem, you are right- but that is not the mean value theorem itself.
 
HallsofIvy said:
whozum, if you mean that the fact that a differentiable function takes on its extreme values on an interval either at the enpoints or in the interior where the derivative is 0 is result of the mean value theorem, you are right- but that is not the mean value theorem itself.

Correct, it is one of the consequences of the mean value theorem.
 
For 2, to find the max and min value, you simply solve for f'(x)=0, right? Then you get +/-sqrt2. Then you determine which is max and which is min. Then you sub both into f(x) to find the max and min values. But for the answer to this question ,the min value is sqrt2 and the max is 0. I don't see how that works out, because -sqrt2 gives a y value of 27.6, which is clearly larger than 5.

For question 1.a., the answer is R(0.5) = 0.5/(1-c)^5. I don't get how they get the "1-c" part. When I get the 4th derivative, I get 24/(1-x)^5. Then you use f(4)(c)x^4/4! (the remainder term), then I end up with (x^4*(c))/((1-x)^5). So I don't know how that works out.
 
2: Remember the domain you are working on. 0 < x < 2 is the interval whose max and min you are interested in.
 
Then how do you know 0 is a maximum? I mean, you couldn't do trial and error. You said that a max or a min occurs etiher at its critical points and/or endpoints right? +/-sqrt2 are critical points, but sqrt2 is the only one in that domain. So either 0 or 2 (which I'm assuming are hte endpoints) must be a max. Is this right?
 
0,2 and sqrt(2) are the only possibilities for max and min. Plug them into f(x) and see which ones biggest and smallest. The respective value will give you the max/min.
 
whozum said:
0,2 and sqrt(2) are the only possibilities for max and min. Plug them into f(x) and see which ones biggest and smallest. The respective value will give you the max/min.

Ok, I get you. Do you know 1.a. at all?
 
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Sorry, I'm not certain on how to do those.
 
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Thats ok...I think I worked it out anyway.

Thanks for your help. :smile:
 
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HallsofIvy said:
1. The "error" in using a Taylor polynomial of order n is the same form as the next, n+1, term in the Taylor series with x replaced by some unknown point. Here, the next term is just x^4 so the error is |c^4| where c is between 0 and 0.5. What is the largest possible value of that?

That's not quite the error. You'll need to also consider how the (n+1)st derivative behaves (see any of the usual remainder formulas). In this case you can also work out the remainder exactly, since it's just a geometric series and see it's outside what considering |c^4| would suggest.
 
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