Differential Equations- homogeneous (I think)

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The discussion revolves around finding the general solution of a homogeneous differential equation involving variables x and y, specifically the equation x*y*(dy/dx)=(x^2) + 3(y^2).

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  • The original poster attempts to solve the equation by rewriting it in a specific form and applying the method of homogeneous equations. They express confusion about a particular step in their solution process and seek clarification on potential mistakes.

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There is a mention of a solution obtained from an external source, Wolfram Alpha, which the original poster references but does not fully understand. The participants are focused on clarifying the steps leading to the original poster's confusion.

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Homework Statement


Find the general solution of the equation
x*y*(dy/dx)=(x^2) + 3(y^2)

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So I start by realizing this is (likely) a homogeneous differential equation, and then rewrite it in the form required:
dy/dx = (x/y) + 3(y/x)
then, using the method of homgeneous equations substitute the variable v, where
v = (y/x), y = vx, dy/dx= v + x(dv/dx)
so I have:
v + x(dv/dx)= (1/v) + 3v
x(dv/dx) = (1/v) + 2v
dx/x = (v + (1/(2v)))dv
then after integrating both sides I get
ln(x) = ((v^2)/2) + (1/2)*ln(v) + C
then substituting back to the original variables I get
ln(x) = ((y^2)/(x^2))*(1/2) + (1/2)*ln(y/x) + C
Now my problem arrives when expressing in the form y(x) = (+ or -)sqrt(c_1 x^6-x^2/2)
which is the solution wolfram alpha got, however wolfram alpha doesn't show how it arrived at this, so I was hoping someone here would, or spot a mistake I made during my solving, or whatever, thank you!

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Hi Stuart! Welcome to PF! :smile:

(try using the X2 tag just above the Reply box :wink:)
StuartSpencer said:
x(dv/dx) = (1/v) + 2v
dx/x = (v + (1/(2v)))dv

ooooh … :cry:

(so good up till then! :redface:)
 
thanks for your comment, but I'm not sure I understand
I can see that I skipped a few steps during that process, but I will show how I arrived there
x(dv/dx)= (1/v) + 2v
dv/dx = ((1/v) + 2v)/x
dv=((1/v)+2v)*dx*1/x
dv/((1/v)+2v) = dx/x
dv*(v+(1/2v))= dx/x
Forgive my ignorance, but I fail to see where I made a mistake, if you can enlighten me I'd appreciate it
 
StuartSpencer said:
I can see that I skipped a few steps during that process,

dv/((1/v)+2v) = dx/x

Hi Stuart! :smile:

The steps you missed :redface:

dv/((1/v)+2v) = vdv/(1+2v2)

[≠ dv*(v+(1/2v)) = vdv*(1+(1/2v2))]

1/(1 + a) ≠ 1 + 1/a :wink:
 
How embarassing...I now see the error of my ways, thank you for revealing this to me.
(someone should probably close this thread)
 

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