Differentiating Kirchoff's voltage law expression

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The discussion focuses on differentiating the equation V0 - iR - q/C = 0 to derive the expression di/dt = -i/RC. Participants clarify the differentiation process, emphasizing the importance of treating R and C as constants. One contributor suggests that directly differentiating the original equation simplifies the solution, avoiding unnecessary substitutions. The conversation highlights the significance of methodical differentiation in solving circuit equations. Ultimately, the correct approach to differentiation is confirmed, leading to the desired result.
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Homework Statement



Differentiate V0 - iR - q/C = 0 to prove that di/dt = -i/RC.

Homework Equations



V0 - iR - q/C = 0
^ derived from previous question for a circuit that had one battery with emf V0, a resistor of resistance R and a capacitor of capacitance C (all in series).
di/dt = -i/RC

The Attempt at a Solution



V0 - iR - q/C = 0
V0 - (dq/dt)R - q/C = 0
V0C - (dq/dt)RC - q = 0
(dq/dt)RC = V0C - q
d/dt((dq/dt)RC) = d/dt(V0C - q)
RC(d/dt(dq/dt) = -dq/dt
RC(di/dt) = -i
di/dt = -i/RC

^ not sure if my maths makes sense (not very good at doing dif/integration when there are multiple variables). I did get the "answer" (which is easy, since its given), but obviously the method's what matters.

Thanks a lot!
 
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It's right but you may have gotten there quicker if you just differentiated this:

V0 - iR - q/C = 0

with respect to time right away. You'll notice the answer is in terms of di/dt so you don't really want to substitute i=dq/dt into that equation.
 
Thanks for the reply.

Do you mean like this?:

V0 - iR - q/C = 0
d/dt(V0 - iR - q/C) = d/dt(0)
d/dt(V0) + d/dt(-iR) + d/dt(-q/C) = 0
0 - R(di/dt) - (1/C)(dq/dt) = 0
-R(di/dt) - (i/C) = 0
di/dt = -i/(RC)

^ I pull out the R and C like they're constants (which I think is correct), and got rid of V0 like you would when you dif a constant.

Edit: I realize the 3rd step isn't required, but just to step it out for myself, I included it.
 
Yes that's right too. I wouldn't have shown so many steps but it's not too different anyway.

V0 - iR - q/C = 0
d/dt (V0 - iR - q/C) = d/dt (0)
-R di/dt - i/C = 0 ;; maybe they want you to say i = dq/dt here
di/dt = - i/(RC)
 
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