Dimensions of Air Drag Constants and Terminal Speed Equation

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The discussion focuses on the dimensions of constants b and c in the air drag equation FD = bv + cv², where v is the object's speed. It is established that the dimensions of b are M/T and those of c are 1/L. Participants emphasize the importance of dimensional analysis in ensuring the consistency of equations. The conversation also touches on deriving the terminal speed VT by balancing forces at terminal velocity, highlighting that dimensional analysis indicates proportional relationships but not specific constants. Overall, the thread provides insights into applying dimensional analysis to fluid dynamics problems.
mdavies23

Homework Statement


The object is falling vertically in a strange fluid, the magnitude of the air drag is best described by the following FD = bv+cv2 where v is the speed of the object and b and c are constants.
A. What are the dimensions of b and c
B. If the object has mass m find an algebraic expression for the terminal speed VT in terms of b,c,m, and g

Homework Equations


V = sqrt ( (2 * W) / (Cd * r * g)

The Attempt at a Solution


[FD] = [v]+[c][v2]
[ML/T2] = [L/T]+[c][L2/T2]
 
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mdavies23 said:

Homework Statement


The object is falling vertically in a strange fluid, the magnitude of the air drag is best described by the following FD = bv+cv2 where v is the speed of the object and b and c are constants.
A. What are the dimensions of b and c
B. If the object has mass m find an algebraic expression for the terminal speed VT in terms of b,c,m, and g

Homework Equations


V = sqrt ( (2 * W) / (Cd * r * g)

The Attempt at a Solution


[FD] = [v]+[c][v2]
[ML/T2] = [L/T]+[c][L/T2]
You left out b.
What dimensional rule applies to addition and subtraction of entities?
 
and additionally to leaving out b the dimension of ##v^2## is ##\frac{L^2}{T^2}##
 
haruspex said:
You left out b.
What dimensional rule applies to addition and subtraction of entities?
They are equal
 
mdavies23 said:
They are equal
The dimensionalities are equal, yes. So apply that to the last eqn in post #1, after making Marc's correction in post #3.
 
haruspex said:
The dimensionalities are equal, yes. So apply that to the last eqn in post #1, after making Marc's correction in post #3.
[ML/T2] =b[L/T]=[c][L2/T2]
 
mdavies23 said:
[ML/T2] =b[L/T]=[c][L2/T2]
so I would need an M/T for b and sqrt(L) on top for c
 
mdavies23 said:
M/T for b
Yes.
mdavies23 said:
sqrt(L) on top for c
How do you get that?
 
haruspex said:
Yes.

How do you get that?
i mean 1/L
 
  • #10
mdavies23 said:
i mean 1/L
Better, but not quite there.
How are you deducing your answers? The simplest is to just write it out as an algebraic equation and simplify: ML/T2=cL2/T2.
 
  • #11
haruspex said:
Better, but not quite there.
How are you deducing your answers? The simplest is to just write it out as an algebraic equation and simplify: ML/T2=cL2/T2.
Oh ok M/L
 
  • #12
mdavies23 said:
Oh ok M/L
Right
 
  • #13
haruspex said:
Right
so then i can just solve for v correct?
 
  • #14
mdavies23 said:
so then i can just solve for v correct?
Dimensional analysis only tells you how the result varies in proportion to the parameters. It does not tell you about any multiplicative constant.
 
  • #15
haruspex said:
Dimensional analysis only tells you how the result varies in proportion to the parameters. It does not tell you about any multiplicative constant.
How would i do part b then?
 
  • #16
mdavies23 said:
How would i do part b then?
By considering the balance of forces at terminal velocity.
 
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