Dirac Notation Help: Solve H, A, K Problems

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The discussion centers on solving problems related to Dirac notation in quantum mechanics, specifically from a homework assignment based on Cohen-Tannoudji's textbook. Participants express challenges in calculating the commutator [H, U(m,n)] and proving the relation A = Σ A_{mn}U(m,n), particularly in understanding the summation and the role of orthonormality. There is also confusion regarding the operator K = |\phi><\psi| and its representation as K = λP_{1}P_{2}, with participants seeking clarification on the use of projectors and the manipulation of terms. Overall, the thread highlights the complexities of applying Dirac notation and the need for careful handling of operators and their properties in quantum mechanics.
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We are working on Dirac notation in my quantum class, and for the most part I see that it is a very easy way to do problems. But I am still getting stuck on how to deal with a few things on my current homework assignment. These come out of chapter 2 in the Cohen-Tannoudji book if you want to look them up.

#1. |\phi_{n}> are eigenstates of a Hermitian operator H and they form a discrete orthonormal basis. The operator U(m,n) is defined by U(m,n)=|\phi_{m}><\phi_{n}|.

b. Calculate the commutator [H,U(m,n)].

I'm not really sure how to deal with this in such a general case. I get to the first step: H|\phi_{m}&gt;&lt;\phi_{n}|-|\phi_{m}&gt;&lt;\phi_{n}|H

but I don't know where to go from there.

e. Let A be an operator, with matrix elements A_{mn}=&lt;\phi_{m}|A|\phi_{n}&gt;

Prove the relation:A=\Sigma A_{mn}U(m,n)

If I start with A_{mn}=&lt;\phi_{m}|A|\phi_{n}&gt;, is it legal to do this:

A_{mn}|\phi_{m}&gt;&lt;\phi_{n}|=&lt;\phi_{m}|\phi_{m}&gt; A&lt;\phi_{m}|\phi_{n}&gt;

then, since the states are orthonormal:
&lt;\phi_{m}|\phi_{m}&gt;=&lt;\phi_{n}|\phi_{n}&gt;=1

If I can do that I get: A=A_{mn}|\phi_{m}&gt;&lt;\phi_{n}|

but I'm not sure where the summation comes in.

#4. Let K be the operator defined by K=|\phi&gt;&lt;\psi| where |\phi&gt;, |\psi&gt; are two vectors of the state space.

c. show that K can always be written in the form K=\lambda P_{1}P_{2} where \lambda is a constant to be calculated and P_{1}, P_{2} are projectors.

I'm not really sure where to get started on this one. Any hints would be appreciatted, especially since this is due monday morning and I won't have time to talk to my professor before hand.
 
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b. If |\phi_{n}&gt; is a eigenket of H, then what is the action of H on |\phi_{n}&gt;? Similarly, what is &lt;\phi_{n}|H? Also note that the communtator between two operators is in general an operator.

e. The identity operator is \sum_{n}|\phi_{n}&gt;&lt;\phi_{n}|. Presumably you want to find A=?. Try to insert the identity operator in front and after A and exchange terms to see what you get.

#4

What is a projector? \frac{|\phi&gt;&lt;\phi|}{&lt;\phi|\phi&gt;} and \frac{|\psi&gt;&lt;\psi|}{&lt;\psi|\psi&gt;} would be projectors.
 
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So I figured out the first two questions, but I'm still stuck on that last one. I get to this point: K=\lambda \frac{|\phi&gt;&lt;\psi|}{&lt;\phi|\phi&gt;} \frac{|\phi&gt;&lt;\psi|}{&lt;\psi|\psi&gt;}

How do I get from that to K=\lambda \frac{|\phi&gt;&lt;\phi|}{&lt;\phi|\phi&gt;} \frac{|\psi&gt;&lt;\psi|}{&lt;\psi|\psi&gt;}?
 
Remember that &lt;\psi|\phi&gt; is just a number...



Actually, how did you get to

K=\lambda \frac{|\phi&gt;&lt;\psi|}{&lt;\phi|\phi&gt;} \frac{|\phi&gt;&lt;\psi|}{&lt;\psi|\psi&gt;}

?

It seems to me that if you did things slightly different, you'd get the answer you seek.
 
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Hurkyl said:
Remember that &lt;\psi|\phi&gt; is just a number...



Actually, how did you get to

K=\lambda \frac{|\phi&gt;&lt;\psi|}{&lt;\phi|\phi&gt;} \frac{|\phi&gt;&lt;\psi|}{&lt;\psi|\psi&gt;}

?

It seems to me that if you did things slightly different, you'd get the answer you seek.

I started with K=|\phi&gt;&lt;\psi| and multiplied by \frac{&lt;\phi|\phi&gt;}{&lt;\phi|\phi&gt;} and \frac{&lt;\psi|\psi&gt;}{&lt;\psi|\psi&gt;}. That is how I got the \lambda=&lt;\phi|\psi&gt; term out front. Although, now that I look over it again, I'm not sure if I can rearrange the terms like that.
 
It's fine; numbers can always be moved around to wherever you want. Why did you opt to pull the &lt;\phi|\psi&gt; term out instead of the &lt;\psi|\phi&gt; term?
 
Hurkyl said:
It's fine; numbers can always be moved around to wherever you want. Why did you opt to pull the &lt;\phi|\psi&gt; term out instead of the &lt;\psi|\phi&gt; term?

I can't believe I didn't see that. Thanks for the help.
 
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