Directional derivative formula

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The discussion centers on calculating the directional derivative of the function f(x,y) at the point Po(1,2) in the direction of the vector -i - 2j. The correct values for the partial derivatives are established as ∂f/∂y = 3/2 and ∂f/∂x = 5/2. The confusion arises from not dividing by the magnitude of the direction vector when applying the dot product, which is essential for obtaining the correct directional derivative of -7/sqrt(5).

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Homework Statement



(Q) The derivative of f(x,y) at Po(1,2) in the direction i + j is 2sqrt(2) and in the direction of -2j is -3. What is the derivative of f in the direction of -i - 2j? Give reasons for your answers.

Homework Equations



The directional derivative is given by the formula:

∂f/∂x i+∂f/∂y j

The Attempt at a Solution



You get simultaneous equations when you apply the above equation and you find that

∂f/∂y = 3/2.
And ∂f/∂x = [4sqrt(2) - 3] / 2.

Then applying the dot product of this and -i - 2j, you get [-3-4sqrt(2)] / 2 but the answer is supposed to be -7/sqrt(5). How did they get that??:confused:
 
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Homework Statement



(Q) The derivative of f(x,y) at Po(1,2) in the direction i + j is 2sqrt(2) and in the direction of -2j is -3. What is the derivative of f in the direction of -i - 2j? Give reasons for your answers.

Homework Equations



The directional derivative is given by the formula:

∂f/∂x i+∂f/∂y j

The Attempt at a Solution



You get simultaneous equations when you apply the above equation and you find that

∂f/∂y = 3/2.
Yes, that's true.

And ∂f/∂x = [4sqrt(2) - 3] / 2.
No, that's not true. "The derivative of f(x,y) at Po(1,2) in the direction i + j is 2sqrt(2)" tells you that [itex]f_x/\sqrt{2}+ f_y/\sqrt{2}= 2\sqrt{2}[/itex] (dividing by the length of i+ j) or that [itex]f_x+ f_y=4[/itex]. Since [itex]f_y= 3/2[/itex], that gives [itex]f_x= 5/2[/itex]

Then applying the dot product of this and -i - 2j, you get [-3-4sqrt(2)] / 2 but the answer is supposed to be -7/sqrt(5). How did they get that??:confused:
No, take the dot product of [itex](5/2)i+ (3/2)j[/itex] with the unit vector in the direction of -i- 2j.

Remember that the derivative in the direction of vector v is [itex]\nabla f \cdot v/||v||[/itex].

You keep forgetting to divide by the length of v.
 
Eye opener!

Thank-you very much for explicitly exposing my weakness! I really mean it. Now, I'll never forget to divide by the length! :smile:
 

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