Displacement of ball bearing using conservation of energy

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The discussion centers on the mechanics of a pendulum system involving a ball bearing released from a height. The final horizontal displacement (D) of the ball after release is derived from the equation D^2 = 4hL, which relates the initial height (h) and the vertical drop (L). Participants explore the conservation of energy principles, noting that potential energy converts to kinetic energy as the ball falls. The importance of time in the horizontal motion is highlighted, as a longer vertical drop allows for greater horizontal displacement due to the time spent in the air. Ultimately, the relationship between height, drop distance, and horizontal motion is clarified through this analysis.
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Homework Statement



A large ball bearing is suspended as a pendulum. One end of the pendulum is held by the electromagnet (1) and the ball is initially held by magnet (2) at some height, h, above its lowest position. The ball is released from (2) and as the pendulum swings through the vertical, the ball cuts an infrared beam (3) and causes the electromagnet holding the string (1) to release it. Ideally, the string is released at the instant the ball cuts the infrared beam. The ball then falls a height L and travels a horizontal distance D from the point of release.

The final displacement (D) of the ball from the release point can be determined using:

D^2=4hL

I can't figure out how this was derived.

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Homework Equations



Potential energy = mgh
Kinetic energy = \frac{1}{2}mv^2

The Attempt at a Solution



I really have no idea. I thought that the final displacement from the release point would be dependent only on h, as the force of gravity after release is only acting downwards, so the horizontal velocity wouldn't change. I've also tried 'reverse-engineering' the equation to figure out how it was derived, but I don't understand where the L*h value came from, as the final kinetic energy should be mg(L+h).
 
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The velocity of the ball is horizontal at point 3 and you get it from conservation of energy. mgh=1/2 m v^2. After reaching point 3, the ball is a projectile.

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Try the solution in two steps.
a) falling through h
b) falling through L.
 
phosgene said:
I thought that the final displacement from the release point would be dependent only on h, as the force of gravity after release is only acting downwards, so the horizontal velocity wouldn't change.

Ok, horizontal velocity doesn't depend on L, but what if L is very big, let's say 1 mile ?
The ball takes "a lot of" time before touching the ground and during that time it moves horizontally as well.
 
Quinzio said:
Ok, horizontal velocity doesn't depend on L, but what if L is very big, let's say 1 mile ?
The ball takes "a lot of" time before touching the ground and during that time it moves horizontally as well.

Yes it does..So where's the problem?
 
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