Solving the first equation with respect to \Gamma(\frac{1}{2}+it) gives:
Ashwin_Kumar said:Simply in the equations, you have not proved the hypothesis wrong, and you have made a couple of errors.
When you write( i have put three dots instead because i don't wish to copy down the whole thing)
\Gamma(\frac{1}{2}+it)=...
You are in essence not correctly solving for the gamma function. Your derivation of one for the gamma function is quite impossible indeed. If you look at the next equation involving the cosine, your gamma function does not make sense at all.
Ashwin_Kumar said:Your equations are contradicting themselves. The previous solution for the gamma function(the equation before you 'solve' the gamma function) contradicts your solution of one.
Ashwin_Kumar said:Furthermore, the summation is definitely not divergent, you can test that out yourselves.
Ashwin_Kumar said:Finally, give me an actual example. At this point, pi has nothing to do with it.
The riemann hypothesis maybe unproven as of yet, but nor has it been disproved. The paper simply does not disprove the hypothesis.
Dschumanji said:The biggest problem I see with this proof is that you are treating infinities as numbers instead of examining the limits of the expressions. I also agree with Micromass that some of the expressions you introduce are non sequitur.
micromass said:I don't quite see how you obtained the equation that comes after it. Your numerator and denominator are the same thing, thus that would imply \Gamma(\frac{1}{2}+it)=1 which isn't true for all t.
micromass said:Fine, your calculator says it is, but you need to prove that this is the case. (and by the way, I think it converges).
dimension10 said:That is about the Theta function. Instead of the theta function itself, I used its definition. That part is a direct implication of the second equation there.
dimension10 said:Ok. I understood. I'll try to do that. Thanks.
I don't understand how this is a justification for what you are doing. By letting infinity act as a number you end up with nonsensical conclusions such as the exponential function equaling zero. The exponential function is never equal to zero. The exponential function only approaches zero as its argument decreases without bound. This is only properly stated as a limit.dimension10 said:Even taking it as a limit, you get infinite.
I have heard of the Riemann sphere, but have no background in complex analysis. Would zero times infinity be defined on the Riemann sphere, if so what would it be? I would think it would still give answers which are undefined.micromass said:Things like
\frac{c}{0}=\infty
are actually ok is complex analysis if we are working in the Riemann sphere (and if c is not zero). What it actually is saying is that the function
f(x)=\frac{c}{x}
is meromorphic and takes on the value \infty in 0.
However, I don't think the OP really meant all of this...
Dschumanji said:I have heard of the Riemann sphere, but have no background in complex analysis. Would zero times infinity be defined on the Riemann sphere, if so what would it be? I would think it would still give answers which are undefined.
Ah, thank you, Micromass!micromass said:Things like 0\cdot \infty, \infty+\infty, \infty\cdot \infty and 0/0 will remain undefined. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riemann_sphere
micromass said:Things like 0\cdot \infty, \infty+\infty, \infty\cdot \infty and 0/0 will remain undefined. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riemann_sphere
dimension10 said:Isn't \infty\times \infty=\infty and \infty+\infty=\infty
dimension10 said:Isn't \infty\times \infty=\infty and \infty+\infty=\infty
Nebuchadnezza said:I also made a discovery ! This graph here shows that clearly \sum_{k=1}^{\infty }\frac{1}{k} = 0
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=1/x++++from+0+to+110
3.1415926535 said:No it doesn't. It shows that \lim_{x\rightarrow \infty}\frac{1}{x}=0
Here is the graph for the sum
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Sum+1/x
micromass said:I think you didn't pick up the sarcasm![]()
micromass said:I think you didn't pick up the sarcasm![]()
3.1415926535 said:Pardon me, I didn't know Nebuchadnezza was being sarcastic
Ashwin_Kumar said:anyway, i don't think that you C A N take 1/0 to be infinity because by using several different functions(not just f(x)=1/x), you get different results, and technically the value is totally undefined. So moving back to the equations stated in the paper, your result would simply be undefined(and no, you cannot use that to say that pi is undefined). In several functions, to derive at the value for 1/0 you use a limit, and they yield different answers. Thus we cannot take the general assumption that 1/0 is infinite, although that seems logically true.
Meanwhile, the summation does indeed seem to have a limit somewhere, and in the end if you do the whole calculation, then congratulations. You have invented a new way to find the value of pi!(sarcasm mark here)
I do not understand how you are defining your theta function.
There are several errors here, but i feel the main error would be your assumption that the series diverges and the result would be infinity(Even if it was, the function could diverge infinitely downwards, yielding a negative result. And if a series converged and the result was infinite... well that totally makes no sense at all. series can converge with the x-value at infinity but not the y-value at infinity. It simply means that the result is divergent, so your idea that it can converge to infinity is wrong).
And it D O E S make a difference, by the way, if you represent infinity as a limit rather than a number itself, and when you say "the result is still infinity", you are missing the point. You leave it as a limit, you make your infinite summation into a limit rather than replacing it with infinity)
Also, euler never wrote that that gamma function would result in 1! That is just plain mad.
(Also, don't forget that the zeta function is a complex plane. So you have a problem if you say infinity times infinity is infinity etc)
dimension10 said:Ok, so it converges. I have attached an "extension" to the Riemann Hypothesis here. It can also be found in the first attachment, but that one's last few equations are flawed since it does converge.
Ashwin_Kumar said:anyway, i don't think that you C A N take 1/0 to be infinity because by using several different functions(not just f(x)=1/x), you get different results, and technically the value is totally undefined. So moving back to the equations stated in the paper, your result would simply be undefined(and no, you cannot use that to say that pi is undefined). In several functions, to derive at the value for 1/0 you use a limit, and they yield different answers. Thus we cannot take the general assumption that 1/0 is infinite, although that seems logically true.
3.1415926535 said:As I can see you have made a mistake in the 2nd line of the third page
sin(\frac{\pi }{4}+\frac{\pi it}{2})=sin(\pi(\frac{2it+1}{4}))\neq sin(\pi(\frac{4it+1}{4}))
micromass said:You could delete your entire document altogether, because the very first step is not valid. Or you haven't given a reason why it is valid.
Also "Euler and others showed..." should have a reference to where you found the result.
Ashwin_Kumar said:So technically this is no longer a disproof nor a proof.
Ashwin_Kumar said:I think the paper should be scrapped because it makes no sense anymore. It no longer disproves the hypothesis. Your first steps are incorrect,
Ashwin_Kumar said:once again I feel that the gamma function is wrong.
Ashwin_Kumar said:And your definition of the theta function, once again, does not seem to make sense.
Ashwin_Kumar said:And because the paper ends with no definite result, it is meaningless.
amitjohar said:The only way to disprove Riemann Hypothesis is to give a counter example where the non-trivial zero of the Riemman Zeta Function does not have half as its real part. Its that simple. The disproof should not be more than a line or 2 at most. It is the proof that is expected to be very lengthy. To date the first 10 trillion non-trivial zeros of the zeta function are confirmed to be on the critical line. What you have done is really not a disproof.
Ah, the classic reductio ad praemium method of proof...amitjohar said:I believe that the Riemann Hypothesis is true. There is a one million dollar prize for anyone who can prove the Riemann Hypothesis. But there is no prize for the disproof of Riemman Hypothesis. This shows that RH is likely true. Why else is no prize offered for disproof of RH?
amitjohar said:I believe that the Riemann Hypothesis is true. There is a one million dollar prize for anyone who can prove the Riemann Hypothesis. But there is no prize for the disproof of Riemman Hypothesis. This shows that RH is likely true. Why else is no prize offered for disproof of RH?
Well, now we have a problem. By the method of proof advanced by amitjohar, we now have shown that the Riemann hypothesis is both true and false.micromass said:A prize is offered for the solution of the Riemann Hypothesis. So even a counterexample could get you 1000000$.
pmsrw3 said:Well, now we have a problem. By the method of proof advanced by amitjohar, we now have shown that the Riemann hypothesis is both true and false.
Isn't there a prize for that?micromass said:Aha! So we have shown mathematics to be inconsistent!