Mathematica Do Complex Mathematica Graphics Overload PhysicsForums Threads?

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The discussion centers on the use of graphics in posts on Physics Forums, specifically concerning the size and complexity of TeX code for generating plots. Participants express concerns about whether the graphics take up too much space and how to optimize them. One user mentions enjoying the process of creating these graphics and considers adding color and thickness for enhancement. Suggestions include breaking down the graphics into smaller parts to reduce code size and exploring the possibility of integrating a graphing utility directly into the forum for users without access to software like Mathematica. The conversation also touches on the character limits for posts, with one user noting that their graphics fit within the 20,000 character limit but do not always display correctly in previews. Overall, the participants appreciate the creative use of TeX for visual representation in discussions, indicating a desire for more resources and tools to facilitate this.
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Do these sorts of graphics take up to much room on physicsforums.
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I guess that they do, but I am having to much fun with it to stop, until I add color and thickness.

If I divide up the graph and use \qbezier with the appropriate curvature I should be able to reduce the size of the tex code by quite a bit.

How small does the tex code for these graphs have to be for it not to be a problem? Or is it even a problem now?
 
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There really is no problem with these graphs in either size or code length -- in fact, it's a very cool use of TeX of which few people here make much use. I have considered building a graphing utility directly into PF, for those members who do not have access to facilities like Mathematica. There is a very similar free program called Octave, and I have considered building some of its functionality into the site. In the meantime, if you'd be interested in doing a little "graphing in TeX on PF" tutorial, it would be of great use to many people here.

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I don't seem to be able to click the image to see the source. :frown:
 
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There it is...:approve:

Daniel.
 
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Sorry,without the tags.

Daniel.
 
Ok. Good to know that they are not too big. Now I am only limited by the 20,000 characters per post limit.

I was going to post this too last time bit there was not enough room.

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This post by itself is 9,940 with spaces.

I will finish off the Mathematic functions to transfer Graphs in Mathematica over to tex, then right something up for it. I will see then if I can do something similar with octave.

How many commands and or characters for tex formatting are allowed per post. Graphics twice the size of the above plot fit in the 20,000 character limit but never seem to display correctly either. When I try to preview a large tex graphic the graphic that appears in the preview is the last graphic viewed rather then a preview for the tex plot.
 
Well... you know what they say. A picture is worth a thousand words (or in this case, around ten thousand).
 

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