Do electric fields have their own separate inherent charge?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around whether electric fields possess their own inherent charge, exploring the nature of electric fields in relation to charged objects and the implications of field theory.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant assumes that electric fields do not have their own 'charge density' and questions the existence of a secondary electric field arising from the electric field itself.
  • Another participant suggests that the first participant has already answered their own question, implying agreement with the initial assumption.
  • A third participant explains that the electromagnetic field is uncharged, referencing Abelian gauge theory and contrasting it with non-Abelian gauge theories, such as Quantum Chromodynamics (QCD), where gauge bosons carry charge.
  • This participant also discusses the implications of QCD, including the confinement of color-charged particles and the structure of hadrons.
  • A final post provides a brief, unclear response ("B-level!") that does not contribute to the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no clear consensus; while one participant supports the idea that electric fields do not have inherent charge, the discussion includes differing perspectives on the implications of field theory and gauge theories.

Contextual Notes

The discussion touches on advanced concepts in gauge theory and particle physics, which may introduce complexities not fully explored in the thread.

Herbascious J
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I am assuming the answer is NO. I realize that the electric field of any charged object has an energy density, but I was curious to know it that same field has it's own 'charge density' so to speak, and that it would have a small secondary electric field of it's own. This would imply that there would be a cascading series of fields that diminished to zero fairly rapidly, so I don't believe it, but I just wanted to verify that this was in fact, NOT true.
 
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I think you have answered your own question. :smile:
 
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The electromagnetic field is uncharged. The deeper reason for this is that it is described by an Abelian gauge theory. In Non-abelian gauge theories the gauge bosons carry the corresponding charge themselves. An example is Quantum Chromodynamics (QCD), the theory that describes the strong interaction.

This kind of theories has quite surprising consequences. One is that QCD describes confinement, i.e., the fact that no free particles carrying a non-zero color charge have been ever observed. The fundamental building blocks of matter, carrying color charge are the quarks (spin-1/2 particles) and gluons, which are the analoga of photons for the electromagnetic field. Due to the fact that the gluons carry charge, all color charged-particles are "confined" into color-charge neutral bound states, the hadrons. The usual ones consist of a (valence) quark-anti-quark bound state, the socalled mesons, or three (valence) quarks, the baryons (among them protons and neutrons building up all the atomic nuclei making the matter around us).
 
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B-level!
 

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