Do I Need Calculus or Another Mathematics to Use This Book?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the necessity of calculus or other advanced mathematics for understanding the material in "An Introduction to Mathematical Thinking: Algebra and Number Systems," specifically the first six chapters. Participants explore the prerequisites and foundational knowledge required for engaging with the book's content.

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  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the level of mathematics knowledge required to engage with the book, specifically asking about the reader's current math background.
  • Another participant suggests familiarity with set theory and various number systems as beneficial for understanding Chapter 6.
  • Some participants propose that while exposure to calculus may be helpful, it is not strictly necessary to read the book.
  • There is a discussion about the relevance of prior courses, such as Discrete Mathematics and Pre-Calculus, and how they relate to the prerequisites for the book.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the educational context of the original poster, emphasizing the importance of understanding the expected skills before starting the book.
  • Another participant notes that an introduction to algebra is generally unlikely to require calculus, unless specified by the book.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that calculus is not a strict prerequisite for the book, but there are differing opinions on the importance of prior knowledge in other areas of mathematics. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific skills needed to effectively engage with the material.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the educational systems and terminology used in different countries, which may affect the interpretation of prerequisite knowledge.

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Do I Need Calculus or Another Advanced Mathematics to Use This Book?

I would like to learn the material from the first to the sixth chapter in An Introduction to Mathematical Thinking: Algebra and Number Systems.

Here are the topics in the book
http://www.math.uwaterloo.ca/~wgilbert/Books/MathThinking.html
 
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Do you know a bit of set theory (Chapter 1 in that book)?

If so, look up these topics online: natural numbers, integers, well-ordering principle, peano arithmetic (get the sense from this of describing a known set by simple rules), rational numbers, construction of the rational numbers (skip this if it is too difficult), real numbers (skip if too difficult).

A brief look through this stuff should set you in the correct frame of mind to read Ch.6.
 
Simon Bridge said:
What level is your math now?

I have taken Discrete Mathematics and Pre-Calculus.
 
Reading the book description from pearson website, it sounds like a rigorous introduction to proof writing. Although exposure to calculus would probably be beneficial, I don't believe it is a necessary condition to read the book.
 
adelin said:
I have taken Discrete Mathematics and Pre-Calculus.
Doesn't really mean anything to me ... pretend that I am in a different country and culture so I am unfamiliar with your education system ;)

Generally - an introduction to algebra is unlikely to need calculus as a prerequisite - unless the book says so. Exposure to other areas of math is always helpful though. The main thing is to make sure you have acquired the prerequisite skills that the book expects ... which can be hard to judge before getting the book. That's why I'm asking about your level of learning - are those courses in the secondary or tertiary programs (i.e. for USA: high school or college)?

Off the names - it looks like you are better equipped to advance along a calculus track than an algebra one - both will teach algebra, but from different perspectives. I would also hope that you have been exposed to continuous mathematics as well as discrete :) If the discrete course had a lot of proofs in it, then you are probably prepared for the kinds of things in an algebra course.
 

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