Do light waves change over distance within a vacuum?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on whether light waves change in amplitude or wavelength as they travel through a vacuum, particularly in the context of gravitational effects and cosmological distances. Participants explore theoretical implications and specific scenarios involving gravitational fields and the expansion of the universe.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question if the amplitude of light waves changes in a vacuum when not encountering matter.
  • Others propose that gravitational redshift can cause changes in wavelength as light moves away from a strong gravitational field.
  • A participant suggests that in a uniform spherical mass scenario, it is unclear whether light waves decrease in amplitude or only in wavelength as they radiate outward.
  • There is a claim that while the total energy of a spherical wave remains constant, its intensity decreases due to the spreading of energy over a larger area as the wave travels outward.
  • One participant notes that over cosmological distances, the wavelength of light increases due to the expansion of the universe, leading to cosmological redshifting, while also mentioning that on smaller scales, such as within the solar system, changes in wavelength are negligible.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying views on the effects of gravitational fields and cosmic expansion on light waves, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without a clear consensus.

Contextual Notes

Some claims depend on specific conditions, such as the strength of gravitational fields or the scale of distances considered, which may not be universally applicable.

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Specifically, does the amplitude of a wave of light change if it does not encounter any matter?
 
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we can have a gravitational redshift were light will change wavelength
moving away from a stong gravitational field ,
 
So, if the universe consisted of a uniform spherical mass and light, when the light waves emanate radially away from the mass would the light waves decrease in amplitude or only wavelength? What exactly happens?
 
k i know that when the light travels outward into a weaker gravitational field
the wave-length becomes longer and the frequency increases but I am not sure
about amplitude
 
As a spherical wave spreads out, without touching anything, the total energy in it does not change. However, it is spread over a greater area (the area of a spherical surface is proportional to the square of the radius) so the intensity at any point on that surface decreases as the inverse square.
 
Over a great enough distance (and we're talking cosmological distances here--millions of light years, i.e. the distance between galaxies), the wavelength gets longer as well. Owing to the expansion of the universe, cosmological redshifting (as opposed to regular redshifting from receding objects) occurs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmological_redshift#Redshift_velocity_and_recessional_velocity

The planned James Webb telescope is an IR telescope because the "first light" (emitted when the universe was a wee billion or two years old) has traveled so far that it's been stretched out and is now in the infrared.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Webb_Telescope

...But for the most part (on Earth or within the solar system, for instance), the wavelength doesn't change to any measurable extent.
 

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