Do photons have mass? Why not?

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Matterwave said:
Could you clarify? There's a few different possible things you could mean with this, and I'm not sure which one (or all of them) you're talking about.
I mean every vacuum spacetime (##T^{\mu\nu}=0##) with curvature (##R^\mu{}_{\nu\eta\xi}\ne 0##). That includes the various gravitational waves and also Schwarzschild and Kerr spacetimes.
 
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Dale said:
I mean every vacuum spacetime (##T^{\mu\nu}=0##) with curvature (##R^\mu{}_{\nu\eta\xi}\ne 0##). That includes the various gravitational waves and also Schwarzschild and Kerr spacetimes.
Gotcha, thanks for clarifying!

So curvature does not require a gravitational source.
It depends a bit on what you mean by "source". If you mean just your criterion ##T^{\mu\nu}=0## then I fully agree. Indeed, the Schwarzschild and Kerr solutions are everywhere vacuum. The variable ##M## (and ##J## for Kerr) which appears in the metric though could be considered a boundary condition which "sources" (now differently defined) the curvature and in real life would correspond to the mass or angular momentum of the astrophysical object under considerarion.

For the gravitational wave case, free plane wave solutions are mathematically possible, just as they are for Maxwell equations. But in real life we still expect "sources" (in the second sense) for that radiation (e.g. merging Neutron stars or black holes).
 
Matterwave said:
It depends a bit on what you mean by "source". If you mean just your criterion Tμν=0 then I fully agree.
Yes. That is what I mean.

##T^{\mu\nu}\ne 0## implies ##R^\mu{}_{\nu\eta\xi}\ne 0##. But ##R^\mu{}_{\nu\eta\xi}\ne 0## does not imply ##T^{\mu\nu}\ne 0##

Matterwave said:
in real life would correspond to the mass or angular momentum of the astrophysical object
Real life may include things like primordial black holes.
 
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pinball1970 said:
If I'm traveling away from the source approaching C will the gamma radiation still not travel towards me at C?
It will, but because energy is frame dependent the "gamma" ray will not be in the gamma energy range in this reference frame. It could be in the radio energy range.
 
Mike_bb said:
Photons have mass. The mass is 0. "Massless" is somewhat unfortunate term.
I am not sure if I agree. If we take the Proca Lagrangian as an example and work out the the three polarization vectors and then naively set m=0 we run into problems, the longitudinal one explodes. The longitudinal polarization vector doesn't exist in the massless theory. So the physical degrees of freedom differ as well.
 
Matterwave said:
For the gravitational wave case, free plane wave solutions are mathematically possible, just as they are for Maxwell equations. But in real life we still expect "sources" (in the second sense) for that radiation (e.g. merging Neutron stars or black holes).
If the sun were to disappear instantly, you would continue to experience its gravity for some time, even though the source no longer exists.

AdS, for example, is another case of a vacuum with curvature; in this instance, the concept of the "source of the curvature" is even more complex.