Do you do anything related to electronics in your spare time?

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The discussion revolves around hobbies related to electronics, particularly focusing on projects that electrical and electronics engineers can undertake during their spare time. Participants share personal experiences and ideas about creating products, repairing vintage equipment, and the potential for income from such activities.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that programming skills can lead to creating apps or games, but questions what similar opportunities exist for electrical engineers that do not require sophisticated equipment.
  • Another participant shares their experience of earning a second income from restoring and repairing tube amplifiers, emphasizing the enjoyment derived from the work despite minimal monetary rewards.
  • Several participants discuss designing guitar amplifiers as a hobby, with one mentioning the pursuit of a patent for guitar electronics, reflecting on how their passion for music electronics has evolved over time.
  • There are mentions of specific techniques used in amplifier modifications, such as using a variac on the power stage and the effects of pulling tubes for sound quality.
  • One participant expresses a desire to hear stories of recent product designs by electronics engineers, noting a sentiment that the era of electronics hobbyists may be fading.
  • Concerns are raised about the high costs of vintage equipment and the regret of having discarded valuable items in the past, highlighting the nostalgia and value placed on old amplifiers.
  • Participants share technical insights about amplifier design, including preferences for certain components and the challenges faced in achieving desired sound qualities.

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The discussion features multiple competing views and experiences regarding the viability of electronics projects as hobbies and potential income sources. There is no consensus on the current state of electronics hobbyism or the best approaches to take.

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Participants express varying levels of nostalgia and regret regarding past decisions related to equipment, and there are unresolved technical discussions about amplifier modifications and their implications for sound quality.

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Hi,
I think that anyone with some programming skills can create apps/games and sell it but what about Electrical/electronics engineers is there anything like this: Projects that one can work on during spare time that do not need sophisticated equipments and that one can sell other than KITS??

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I made a pretty good second income from restoring/repairing tube amplifiers. I often had a Fender torn down in the kitchen table in the evening. My wife was a saint in this regard, and she even got used to having Harley carburetors torn down on the kitchen table. If it was something I liked to do (even if the monetary reward was minimal at times), she'd give me a lot of leeway.
 
I design guitar amps as hobby when I was working. I am current still designing electronics for musical instruments. In fact I have been working pretty much full time in pursuing a patent( really cross my finger!:bugeye:) in some guitar electronics.

Don't know about money making, but designing guitar amp was what got me started 30 years ago, so I am going in full circle.
 
yungman said:
I design guitar amps as hobby when I was working. I am current still designing electronics for musical instruments. In fact I have been working pretty much full time in pursuing a patent( really cross my finger!:bugeye:) in some guitar electronics.

Don't know about money making, but designing guitar amp was what got me started 30 years ago, so I am going in full circle.
Go,Yung! You might not get rich, but you might make musicians' lives richer.
 
turbo said:
I made a pretty good second income from restoring/repairing tube amplifiers. I often had a Fender torn down in the kitchen table in the evening. My wife was a saint in this regard, and she even got used to having Harley carburetors torn down on the kitchen table. If it was something I liked to do (even if the monetary reward was minimal at times), she'd give me a lot of leeway.

Oh yeh, the good old vintage Fender. I used to be able to draw out most of the Fender amp schematics. My wife don't look at it this kindly. She is very neat and can't stand mess.

I actually put a variac on the power stage of a Twin in 1978, before people even start talking any about this. Now they have books about this. I put the variac only on the differential stage and the power tube and make the fix bias proportion to the main voltage. I left the filament and preamp alone with full voltage. At the time, the idea of shutting down a pair of tube is not very public as Mesa just came out around 73. I just pull two of the tube out. It sounded so good even when I cranked it down. During the process of working on the Twin, I got so into electronics that I actually quit music all together and end up having a full career in electronics. Now I am going back in full circle and playing with musical electronics lately.
 
Thank you all for the replies :)

Do you know any good stories about people who actually designed new products using their knowledge in EENG? it would be great if these stories are recent enough because I am reading all over the internet that the time of electronics Hobbyists is gone which made me sad since I want to be able to use my knowledge to create new products and be able to sell them for good income as a Hobby.
 
yungman said:
Oh yeh, the good old vintage Fender. I used to be able to draw out most of the Fender amp schematics. My wife don't look at it this kindly. She is very neat and can't stand mess.

I actually put a variac on the power stage of a Twin in 1978, before people even start talking any about this. Now they have books about this. I put the variac only on the differential stage and the power tube and make the fix bias proportion to the main voltage. I left the filament and preamp alone with full voltage. At the time, the idea of shutting down a pair of tube is not very public as Mesa just came out around 73. I just pull two of the tube out. It sounded so good even when I cranked it down. During the process of working on the Twin, I got so into electronics that I actually quit music all together and end up having a full career in electronics. Now I am going back in full circle and playing with musical electronics lately.
Pulling tubes and half/powering these old amps could be a great way to get good tone. Twins were a popular target, because they had solid-state power-supply that wouldn't sag like earlier Fenders. I loved the old tweeds because their tube rectifiers would sag like hell when you hit them with a big input signal.
 
turbo said:
Pulling tubes and half/powering these old amps could be a great way to get good tone. Twins were a popular target, because they had solid-state power-supply that wouldn't sag like earlier Fenders. I loved the old tweeds because their tube rectifiers would sag like hell when you hit them with a big input signal.

My next one will be cathode bias with resistor. I already have a platform used to be KMC or something with a Celetion Vintage 30 speaker. It kind of like the design of a Musicman amp. But I already ripped everything out and just use the two transformers and the filter caps. I modified a Bassman 100, but it does not give me the sound I want, I think it's because the two transformer is just way too big, you don't get the compression from core saturation. AND it's so heavy. I think I would buy two smaller transformer if I were to use that again.

Problem is those old Fenders are very expensive particularly only use it as a platform. I could have kick myself that I through out a black face Deluxe and a Bassman 100 in 1986...in the garbage! I used to have a Vibrolux when I was in Hong Kong long time ago, I so wish I still has it.
 
yungman said:
My next one will be cathode bias with resistor. I already have a platform used to be KMC or something with a Celetion Vintage 30 speaker. It kind of like the design of a Musicman amp. But I already ripped everything out and just use the two transformers and the filter caps. I modified a Bassman 100, but it does not give me the sound I want, I think it's because the two transformer is just way too big, you don't get the compression from core saturation. AND it's so heavy. I think I would buy two smaller transformer if I were to use that again.

Problem is those old Fenders are very expensive particularly only use it as a platform. I could have kick myself that I through out a black face Deluxe and a Bassman 100 in 1986...in the garbage! I used to have a Vibrolux when I was in Hong Kong long time ago, I so wish I still has it.
Ooh! Bad! Nobody ever throw out an old Fender! They are the most repairable/rebuildable amps of all time. I will pay shipping.

I have a few "tube rectifiers" that I made, using a rectifier tube base, wired with diodes so that if a rectifier tube crapped out while I was performing, I could switch that out. I never had to use one. Those old rectifier tubes were bulletproof!
 
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turbo said:
Ooh! Bad! Nobody ever throw out an old Fender! They are the most repairable/rebuildable amps of all time. I will pay shipping.

I have a few "tube rectifiers" that I made, using a rectifier tube base, wired with diodes so that if a rectifier tube crapped out while I was performing, I could switch that out. I never had to use one. Those old rectifier tubes were bulletproof!

I know, I really kick myself. At the time, my career had nothing to do with music, in fact I never work on music electronics in the 30 years.

You still performing, what kind of music? I quit in 1979, I used to play those classic rock and funk that was very popular in those days. I don't even like playing anymore. Now it's all about electronics, I just use my experience to test and try. One thought is buying a Vibrolux transformer set so I get the floating filament secondary to do the tube rectifier. The old Fenders really have good clean sound.

I am absolutely surprised when I come back to music electronics, that they really have not move very far since the day I left. I think that's because there is no money in the field. Takes a lot of effort to build an amp and you can only sell it for less than $1500...That is if you have a name and you have people even willing to look at it. And that is at the retail end, I doubt you can sell for half to the retailers. At that, you'll be lucky to sell 100 a year. That is slave labor after paying for the parts, labor. The enclosure can be very expensive as so is the speaker. I don't think people are making money unless you are Fender, Marshall etc.
 

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