Do you think it's safe to have bleach go down house pipes?

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The discussion revolves around the safety of disposing of bleach down household plumbing, including toilets, showers, sinks, and laundry machines. Participants explore various perspectives on the potential effects of bleach on plumbing systems and septic systems, as well as the implications of using different types of cleaning agents.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that household bleach will not damage plumbing, while others caution that it may harm septic systems.
  • There is a mention of the importance of dilution, with some arguing that using bleach in small, diluted amounts is likely safe.
  • Concerns are raised about the effects of bleach on old cast iron plumbing, with suggestions that it may accelerate corrosion, while PVC plumbing is considered safer.
  • One participant emphasizes that the disposal of chemicals depends on their concentration and amount, recommending consultation with local waste management for specific guidelines.
  • There is a discussion about the safety of using commercial drain cleaners, with warnings that some may generate heat and potentially damage pipes.
  • Clarifications are sought regarding what is meant by "used bleach," with some suggesting that it should still be treated with caution despite being diluted after cleaning.
  • One participant shares personal experiences with using aggressive cleaning agents and the precautions they take when handling such chemicals.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the safety of disposing of bleach down plumbing. Multiple competing views remain regarding the effects on plumbing and septic systems, as well as the appropriate use of cleaning agents.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include varying definitions of "used bleach," the complexity of chemical interactions, and the lack of definitive guidelines on safe disposal practices for different plumbing materials.

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I'm thinking of toilets, showers, sinks, and laundry machine.

Have seen various articles online all conflicting with each other. Some say it's fine and won't harm your home's pipes. Other say not to do it. And a possible middle-ground position is something like mix it with a lot of water so it's not too strong - then it shouldn't be a problem.

Thought I would throw this one out there for the science people here to see if there is a consensus answer.
 
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I don't believe that household bleach will damage plumbing. What it can do: Kill off your septic system (if you have one).
 
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Disposal of chemicals in general depends on the specifics of the chemical, the concentration, and the amount.
OSHA rules about specific chemicals will often say it is OK to dispose of small amounts of dilute chemicals but not large amounts of concentrated chemicals. Dilute bleach, less than a liter, probably not a problem (unless you are using a septic systems as @Dullard noted).

Determining the cut-offs for the different chemicals is complex and best done by experts. I would ask someone knowledgeable if in doubt.
Where I live, I would ask someone at the Lane County Division of Waste Management.
They run the dumps and can tell you the amounts of things you can dispose of.
 
What was already said, plus I would be a bit wary of using bleach in the case of old cast iron plumbing, it can probably speed up the corrosion. PVC plumbing should be safe.
 
kyphysics said:
I'm thinking of toilets, showers, sinks, and laundry machine.
So, actually you mean used bleach, in quantities used for cleaning and washed down afterward, right?

That's expected to be safe.
 
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Well, I'm about to pour a half-litre of 'Mr M**e' drain-clearer down hand-bowl plug-hole because of accumulation of organic detritus (hair) that is seriously slowing drainage. Brisk 'Plunger' dunking helped, some ordinary bleach stood overnight helped, running taps to create a 'rush' of water helped, but I'm now going full-on CBW ...
 
I might get that for my job, my brother and I only work weekends and as far as I know we are the only ones who use draino so the pipes get clogged all the time (I work in a gas station that sells coffee and food that we cook). Not to mention I don’t think our draino breaks down the plastic bags that get into the pipes
 
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I think the question that may be in some's mind is "Why do you want to put chlorine bleach down the plumbing ?"
 
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Nik_2213 said:
Well, I'm about to pour a half-litre of 'Mr M**e' drain-clearer down hand-bowl plug-hole because of accumulation of organic detritus (hair) that is seriously slowing drainage. Brisk 'Plunger' dunking helped, some ordinary bleach stood overnight helped, running taps to create a 'rush' of water helped, but I'm now going full-on CBW ...
I've actually read (not sure if accurate or not) that those industrial/commercial grade cleaners are a big NO NO, Nik.

I think Draino was said to heat up in pipes and totally mess them up.

If Mr. M is one of those commercial ones, I'd definitely double-check it's safety and appropriateness!
 
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Rive said:
So, actually you mean used bleach, in quantities used for cleaning and washed down afterward, right?

That's expected to be safe.

Not sure what you mean by "used bleach." You mean bleach that is diluted?
 
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kyphysics said:
Not sure what you mean by "used bleach." You mean bleach that is diluted?
Not just that. These bleach-like aggressive cleaning agents working by chemically breaking down/bonding the dirt/unwanted material. It also means that once used (for cleaning) it becoming 'weaker', at least.

Since the end result of this is hard to calculate, for safety reasons 'used' bleach still should be handled as 'new', but regarding the plumbing it is likely safe to send it down with a decent amount of water.
 
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#kyphysics :"If Mr. M is one of those commercial ones, I'd definitely double-check it's safety and appropriateness! "
Fair comment !
Yes, this 'Mr M' formulation is intended for this task, and is an appropriate quantity to relieve constriction rather than a full-on 'gunge-berg'. To clear a blocked patio drain, I've used 'caustic pellets', actual NaOH, sold for that purpose. And, yes, it generates a LOT of heat. The standing water over the blockage soon seethed and roiled, bubbled, spat and coughed tiny steam rings...

Like FX from a big lump of 'Dry Ice' tossed into water, only real-scary.

A former lab chemist, I handle such nasties with the 'Due Care' they deserve, verging on mild paranoia. FWIW, I was one of the very few people in our sprawling site's multiple labs authorised to brew bulk 'Chromic Acid' for last-resort glass-cleaning. Helped that I'd handled lithium aluminium hydride and sodium in quantity at Uni, had blown up a fume-hood or two, learned Murphy's Law is recursive...
:wink: :wink: :wink:
 

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