Does a Submanifold Correspond to the Center Manifold?

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Hi all,

I am not familiar with the dynamic system theory. When I was trying to understand the weakly nonlinear stability analysis, I realize the following question.

It is known that the center manifold reduction can be used to study the first linear bifurcation. This lead to the Ginzburg-Landau equation
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Is the center manifold corresponding to the space
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? I feel this because at the linear bifurcation, the growth rate of the disturbance is zero, which implies that
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in the above equation.

Then does there exist a submanifold corresponding to
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?

Thanks a lot.
 
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jollage said:
Hi all,

I am not familiar with the dynamic system theory. When I was trying to understand the weakly nonlinear stability analysis, I realize the following question.

It is known that the center manifold reduction can be used to study the first linear bifurcation. This lead to the Ginzburg-Landau equation
tex?\frac{\partial%20A}{\partial%20t}=a_1A%20+%20a_3%20A^*A^2%20+%20a_5%20A^{*2}A^3%20+%20.......png


Is the center manifold corresponding to the space
png.png
?

You are missing some spatial derivatives from that equation.

The centre manifold consists of the (complex) amplitudes corresponding to wavenumbers of marginally stable disturbances to some reference state of the physical quantities you are studying. Here that amplitude is A.

By adding the evolution equation for a_1, which is \frac{\partial a_1}{\partial t} = 0, we obtain the extended centre manifold, which includes the actual centre manifold as a submanifold.

a_1, a_3, and a_5 are functions of the parameters appearing in the PDE which actually governs the evolution of the physical quantities involved. At the actual bifurcation it will be the case that a_1 = 0, but the idea is that the Ginzburg-Landau equation also applies at parameter values near to, but not at, the bifurcation. For these values a_1 \neq 0.

By adding the trivial evolution equation for a_1, \frac{\partial a_1}{\partial t} = 0 to the system we obtain the extended centre manifold, which indeed contains the original centre manifold as a submanifold.
 
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pasmith said:
You are missing some spatial derivatives from that equation.

The centre manifold consists of the (complex) amplitudes corresponding to wavenumbers of marginally stable disturbances to some reference state of the physical quantities you are studying. Here that amplitude is A.

a_1, a_3, and a_5 are functions of the parameters appearing in the PDE which actually governs the evolution of the physical quantities involved. At the actual bifurcation it will be the case that a_1 = 0, but the idea is that the Ginzburg-Landau equation also applies at parameter values near to, but not at, the bifurcation. For these values a_1 \neq 0.

Hi pasmith,

Thanks a lot for your reply.

Yes, you are right. For the GLE, I should add some spatial-derivative terms. Here, I just listed the linear and nonlinear growth rate terms, since they are pertaining to the questions I have.

I understand what you wrote there. Do you have any clue about the existence of the submanifold for a_3 = 0? Thanks.
 
jollage said:
Hi pasmith,

Thanks a lot for your reply.

Yes, you are right. For the GLE, I should add some spatial-derivative terms. Here, I just listed the linear and nonlinear growth rate terms, since they are pertaining to the questions I have.

I understand what you wrote there. Do you have any clue about the existence of the submanifold for a_3 = 0? Thanks.

It exists. We can keep extending the centre manifold by adding \frac{\partial a_n}{\partial t} = 0 to the system until we've exhausted our parameters. Fixing the value of a_n then produces a submanifold of one fewer dimensions.
 
pasmith said:
It exists. We can keep extending the centre manifold by adding \frac{\partial a_n}{\partial t} = 0 to the system until we've exhausted our parameters. Fixing the value of a_n then produces a submanifold of one fewer dimensions.

Great, thanks. Is there any general procedure of changing the parameters to achieve this (fixing the value of a_n)? For instance, for fixing a_1=0, what I usually do is to plot a neutral curve in the parameter space, and then to choose the parameters on that neutral curve. This will guarantee that the growth rate is small. How to fix a_3 then?

Another question is that, if a_3=0 can be located in the parameter space, does it mean we can change between the subcritical and supercritical bifurcation by modifying slightly the parameters (across the curve on which a_3=0)?

Could you please tell me any reference on this subject (center manifold and submanifold)? Thanks a lot!
 
Perhaps somebody else have a reference? I would very much like to read it as well :)
 
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