Does Increasing Torque Affect Kinetic Friction When a Wheel Slips?

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Increasing torque does not affect the kinetic friction force when a wheel is slipping, as kinetic friction is determined by the normal force and the coefficient of kinetic friction. The equations show that the frictional force remains constant regardless of torque, as long as the wheel is slipping. The normal force is equal to the weight of the wheel on a flat surface, leading to a consistent kinetic friction force. The discussion highlights the distinction between static and kinetic friction, noting that static friction is influenced by applied forces. Overall, the conclusion reinforces that in slipping conditions, torque does not influence kinetic friction.
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This isn't actually a homework question, but the style of it fits best in this forum.

Diagram
http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/9836/text5029jb0.png
  • \tau - torque of wheel
  • R - radius of wheel
  • f_k - force due to kinetic friction

Question
Is the translational acceleration of the wheel independent of the torque when the wheel is slipping? That is, if the torque is increased, will f_k increase?

My attempt (Not necessarily correct)

Additional variables:
  • u_k - coefficient of kinetic friction between floor and wheel
  • N - normal force
  • m - mass of wheel
  • g - acceleration due to gravity

N = mg (since it's on a flat surface)
f_k = u_k N = u_k m g

\tau does not appear in the equation, so f_k is independent of torque. No matter how much the torque is increased, f_k will not increase if the wheel slips.

Thanks for reading through my question,
David
 
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Well, sure. If the frictional force is purely due to kinetic friction, it's only dependent on the normal force and independent of torque.
 
Okay, thank you very much for answering. My intuition told me otherwise, so I wanted to verify my answer.
 
Your intuition probably told you otherwise because if the wheel is not slipping then you are dealing with static friction which is very dependent on the applied force. Even if it is slipping kinetic friction is only an approximate model. Don't dis your intuition too much.
 
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