Does the electric current have a direction?

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Electric current is often described as a scalar quantity, representing the amount of charge passing through a conductor per second, measured in amperes. However, electric current does have a direction, which is a characteristic of vector quantities. The confusion arises because while the current itself is quantified as a scalar, the flow of electrons within the current has a defined direction. The relationship between current density, a vector, and total current illustrates this distinction, as current density accounts for both magnitude and direction. Ultimately, while current is scalar in terms of measurement, its directional flow is an essential aspect of its behavior in electrical systems.
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We know that the electrical current is scalar. Also we know that a scalar hasn't got a direction but electric current has got a direction. I've confused! Please help me..
 
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hmalkan said:
We know that the electrical current is scalar. Also we know that a scalar hasn't got a direction but electric current has got a direction. I've confused! Please help me..

How do you know that electric current is a scalar?

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Electric current does have a direction, and, as such, is a vector, and not a scalar.
 
Electic current does have a direction, the problem is the frequent appearance of the equation:

i = \frac{dq}{dt}

which does not really tell exactly what current is; this equation only gives you the magnitude, not the direction. I prefer to define the surface current density:

\vec{j} = \rho \vec{v}

in terms of the charge density and the velocity. Then we have:

\vec{i} = A \vec{j}

where A is the area.
 
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41VHYYJB0KL._SL160_.jpg

This is my book. It says electric current is a scalar at the heading of chapter 2.

 
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The current density \vec J is a vector, but the current I through a given surface is a scalar, as can be seen from the relationship between the two:

I = \int{\vec J \cdot d \vec a}

When you're calculating e.g. the magnetic force on a current-carrying wire, the directionality of the current is properly associated with the length of the wire rather than with the current itself:

\vec F = I \vec l \times \vec B

for a straight wire segment and uniform \vec B, or

\vec F = I \int {d \vec l \times \vec B}

otherwise. This assumes that \vec B doesn't vary significantly over the cross-section of the wire. If it does, then you have to calculate the force by using the current density and integrating over the volume of the wire:

\vec F = \int {(\vec J \times \vec B) dV}
 
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confinement said:
\vec{i} = A \vec{j}

where A is the area.

You have to allow for the area not being perpendicular to the current. If \vec J is uniform, then you can use

I = \vec J \cdot \vec A

where the direction of \vec A is perpendicular to the surface. If \vec J is not uniform, then you have to integrate.
 
jtbell said:
The current density \vec J is a vector, but the current I through a given surface is a scalar, as can be seen from the relationship between the two:

I = \int{\vec J \cdot d \vec a}

When you're calculating e.g. the magnetic force on a current-carrying wire, the directionality of the current is properly associated with the length of the wire rather than with the current itself:

\vec F = I \vec l \times \vec B

for a straight wire segment and uniform \vec B, or

\vec F = I \int {d \vec l \times \vec B}

otherwise. This assumes that \vec B doesn't vary significantly over the cross-section of the wire. If it does, then you have to calculate the force by using the current density and integrating over the volume of the wire:

\vec F = \int {(\vec J \times \vec B) dV}

I don't understand what \vec B stands for.
 
hmalkan said:
I don't understand what \vec B stands for.

Magnetic field.
 
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hmalkan said:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41VHYYJB0KL._SL160_.jpg

This is my book. It says electric current is a scalar at the heading of chapter 2.


Current is scalar.

Current (in amperes) is the amount of charge that passes through a point on a conductor every second. It is just a number. An "ampere" is a scalar quantity.

But, and this might make it confusing, but the electrons do flow in a given direction.
The electrical current does have a direction, but that information isn't contained in the unit "ampere".

Does that make sense at all? I could try to explain it better...
 
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The units only ever measure magnitude, not direction.

It doesn't even make sense to have vector units.
 
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All you are very helpful. Thanks for replies.
 
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