Does the spring's direction of acceleration affect the momentum of the system?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the effects of a spring's direction of acceleration on the momentum of a system involving two gliders. Participants are exploring the implications of external forces, specifically the spring, on the overall momentum of the system.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are questioning the definition of "the system" and whether it includes both blocks or just one. There is uncertainty about how the spring's acceleration direction affects the total momentum. Some are considering the spring as an external force and discussing its implications on momentum, while others are noting the lack of mass information for the spring.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active with participants raising questions about the system's definition and the role of the spring as an external force. There is no explicit consensus, but various interpretations and considerations are being explored regarding the momentum changes.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of the problem statement, which does not provide mass for the spring, leading to uncertainty about its contribution to the system's momentum.

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Homework Statement


In the pictures

Homework Equations



Fnet = dp/dt

The Attempt at a Solution



I know in part b there is a net external force (gravity) that does positive work, fnet > 0, thus dp/dt is positive. Does the spring in part c increase or decrease the momentum of the system? I am not too sure of
my answer.[/B]
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What is 'the system?' Is it both blocks or one block? Do you see how the answer is different in either case?
 
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brainpushups said:
What is 'the system?' Is it both blocks or one block? Do you see how the answer is different in either case?
The system consists of the two gliders. So it appears that the spring is indeed an external force. But the direction the spring accelerates the block is in negative direction, so I am not sure how the TOTAL momentum of the system will change.
 
Joe Armas said:
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The system consists of the two gliders. So it appears that the spring is indeed an external force. But the direction the spring accelerates the block is in negative direction, so I am not sure how the TOTAL momentum of the system will change.
Even if you count the spring as external to the system (and I'm not sure that's intended), you are not given any mass for it. Taking its mass as zero, it cannot add or remove any momentum from the system of gliders.
 

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