Does the velocity of sound change when the source moves?

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The velocity of sound in air remains constant regardless of the motion of the source, as described by the equation V = √(γRT/M). However, the perceived frequency of the sound changes due to the Doppler effect when the source moves relative to the observer. In the room reference frame, the sound's velocity relative to the observer is influenced by the source's velocity and the observer's position. The discussion clarifies that while the speed of sound remains unchanged, the frequency perceived by the observer does vary with the source's movement. Understanding this concept is essential for explaining the Doppler effect.
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Homework Statement


Will the velocity of sound change if the source moves?

Homework Equations


The velocity of velocity of sound in air equals:
$$V=\sqrt{\frac{\gamma RT}{M}}=const$$

The Attempt at a Solution


I think it doesn't change. But it seems to conflict with the equation :
$$\vec{v_{air}}=\vec{v_s}+\vec{V}$$
 
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Hamal_Arietis said:

Homework Statement


Will the velocity of sound change if the source moves?

Homework Equations


The velocity of velocity of sound in air equals:
$$V=\sqrt{\frac{\gamma RT}{M}}=const$$

The Attempt at a Solution


I think it doesn't change. But it seems to conflict with the equation :
$$\vec{v_{air}}=\vec{v_s}+\vec{V}$$
Please explain what each velocity represents in that last equation.
 
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In room reference frame
##v_{air}## is the velocity of sound that observer receives. ##v_s## is velocity of source and ## V ## is the velocity of sound if source doesn't move.
 
Hamal_Arietis said:
In room reference frame
##v_{air}## is the velocity of sound that observer receives. ##v_s## is velocity of source and ## V ## is the velocity of sound if source doesn't move.
I don't understand.
In the room reference frame, the source, receiver and air may all have a velocity, and the sound has a velocity relative to the air.
Let's call these vs, vr, va, and V respectively, all measured in the same direction.

What does your equation look like in those terms? You seem to be saying that the sound arrives at the receiver with speed V+vs-vr, but that is not true. No matter how the source moves, the velocity of the sound waves relative to the room is V+va, and relative to the receiver is V+va-vr. The frequency is another matter.
 
Sorry .I seem air and receiver don't move. And source comes near observer. So the velocity of sound that obsever receives v=vs+ V
 
Hamal_Arietis said:
Sorry .I seem air and receiver don't move. And source comes near observer. So the velocity of sound that obsever receives v=vs+ V
No, as I posted, the velocity of the source does not affect the velocity of the sound waves. It does affect the frequency.
 
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Thanks a lot for helping. I understanded.
Answering this question helps me prove the Dopper effect.
 
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