Double Integral With probability

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The discussion revolves around evaluating double integrals related to a probability density function defined for the region where x > 0, y > 0, and x + y < 1. Participants are tasked with finding expressions for probabilities involving the conditions y > x and y > 1/2, given certain constraints.

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  • Participants present different integral expressions for calculating probabilities, specifically P(y > x) and P(Y > 1/2 | X < 1/2). There are discussions about the correctness of these expressions and the implications of the conditions set by the probability density function.

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Some participants express confidence in the setups provided for the probability calculations, while others question the validity of certain integral limits and the roles of x and y in the expressions. There is acknowledgment of potential typos and clarifications regarding the conditions of the probability statements.

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Participants are navigating the constraints imposed by the probability density function and the specific regions defined by the inequalities. There is a focus on ensuring that the integrals align with the defined conditions of the problem.

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$$f(x,y)=
\begin{cases}
4(x+y^2),&\text{if x > 0, y > 0, x + y < 1} \\
0, &\text{elsewhere} \\
\end{cases}$$

Find two different integral expressions for P(y > x)

(1) $$\int_{0} ^{1/2}\int_{0} ^y 4(x+y^2),dx\,dy + \int_{1/2} ^{1}\int_{0} ^{1-y} 4(x+y^2),dx\,dy $$

(2) $$\int_{0} ^{1/2}\int_{x} ^{1-x} 4(x+y^2),dy\,dx $$
Are they right?

Second , find P(Y > 1/2 | X < 1/2). the set up I have is = P(Y > 1/2, X < 1/2)/P(X<1/2)= $$\int_{1/2} ^{1}\int_{0} ^{1-y} 4(x+y^2),dx\,dy / \int_{0} ^{1/2}\int_{0} ^{1-x} 4(x+y^2),dy\,dx $$ is this set up right?

Third, find P(Y > 1/2 | X > 1/2) I found that the prob should be 0 because there no intersection for Y > 1/2 and X < 1/2 ? Right?
 
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Askhwhelp said:
$$f(x,y)=
\begin{cases}
4(x+y^2),&\text{if x > 0, y > 0, x + y < 1} \\
0, &\text{elsewhere} \\
\end{cases}$$

Find two different integral expressions for P(x > y)

(1) $$\int_{0} ^{1/2}\int_{0} ^y 4(x+y^2),dx\,dy + \int_{1/2} ^{1}\int_{0} ^{1-y} 4(x+y^2),dx\,dy $$

(2) $$\int_{0} ^{1/2}\int_{x} ^{1-x} 4(x+y^2),dy\,dx $$
Are they right?
Looks like you switched the roles of x and y in both cases.

If x + y < 1 and x > y, then y can't be greater than 1/2, right? Yet in (1), you have an integral for 1/2 < y < 1.
 
Askhwhelp said:
Second , find P(Y > 1/2 | X < 1/2). the set up I have is = P(Y > 1/2, X < 1/2)/P(X<1/2)= $$\int_{1/2} ^{1}\int_{0} ^{1-y} 4(x+y^2),dx\,dy / \int_{0} ^{1/2}\int_{0} ^{1-x} 4(x+y^2),dy\,dx $$ is this set up right?
Looks good.

Third, find P(Y > 1/2 | X > 1/2) I found that the prob should be 0 because there no intersection for Y > 1/2 and X > 1/2 ? Right?
I assuming that was a typo. Yes, your reasoning is correct.
 
vela said:
Looks good.


I assuming that was a typo. Yes, your reasoning is correct.

Thank you for pointing it out
 
vela said:
Looks like you switched the roles of x and y in both cases.

If x + y < 1 and x > y, then y can't be greater than 1/2, right? Yet in (1), you have an integral for 1/2 < y < 1.
My typo it should P(y> x). With this prob., my (1) and (2) should be right?
 
Looks good then.
 

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