Double Slit Experiment, Testing the Test

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the Double Slit Experiment, specifically focusing on the behavior of photons that do not pass through the slits and the implications of detecting them before they reach the slits. Participants explore the nature of photon behavior, the concept of wave-particle duality, and the experimental setup involving detectors.

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  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the behavior of photons that fail to pass through the slits and suggests placing detectors on the source side to observe their properties before reaching the slits.
  • Another participant asserts that photons not passing through the slits are absorbed by the slit plate, indicating a wave function that determines the probability of absorption.
  • A different viewpoint states that photons not going through the slits are either absorbed or reflected by the material of the obstacle, and increasing light intensity could damage the obstacle.
  • One participant expresses confusion about the concept of single-photon experiments and questions how photons can "miss" if they are aimed in the same direction.
  • A later reply clarifies that the single-photon concept means only one photon is present in the system at a time, and those that do not make it are not part of the experiment.
  • Another participant acknowledges the point about pre-selection and raises a question about how to calculate its effect on the results.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the behavior of photons that do not pass through the slits and the implications of single-photon experiments. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives on these topics.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding assumptions about photon behavior, the definitions of wave-particle duality, and the experimental conditions that have not been fully explored or agreed upon.

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Something I've wondered about the Double Slit Experiment is what happens to photons which fail to pass through either slit, and what is their behavior?

Why not put some detectors on the source side of the slits during a double slit experiment to try to determine whether the photons are behaving like a particle or wave even before they reach the slits? For example, will the photon be found to be "interfering with itself" or alternating particle/wave properties even before it reaches the slits?

To test this, I was thinking of putting detectors between the two slits, above, below, and on either side of them in order to find out if the photons, or anything else, hits the source side of the obstacle during the experiment.
 
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The photons which do not pass the slits are absorbed by the slit plate, the same as if there were no slits in the plate.
Photons behave partly as particle and partly as wave. The wave determines the probability of absorption, and before the slit the wave is just spherical
 
The photons that don't go through the slits are either absorbed or reflected by the material that the obstacle is made of. Increase the intensity of the incoming light enough, and I guarantee that you will melt or burn up the obstacle, regardless of whether it has slits cut in it or not.
 
I thought as much, however it is often claimed that the experiments are done by releasing one photon at a time. Am I to understand that these photons miss as well?

Why would they miss if they are all aimed in the same direction?
 
Wade888 said:
I thought as much, however it is often claimed that the experiments are done by releasing one photon at a time. Am I to understand that these photons miss as well?

Why would they miss if they are all aimed in the same direction?

You are missing the point. The single-photon idea means that at any given time, only one photon is inside or within the system. It has nothing to do with what was missed and what wasn't. The photon that didn't make it is not part of the experiment. All we care about is that the photon that made it in, there aren't any other at the same time to trigger the detector.

Zz.
 
Wade888 said:
I thought as much, however it is often claimed that the experiments are done by releasing one photon at a time. Am I to understand that these photons miss as well?

Why would they miss if they are all aimed in the same direction?

I think that is a good point. It would suggest a sort of pre-selection. How do we calculate the effect of that on the results?
 

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