Doubt on Fatigue Strength S-N diagrams

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The discussion centers on the relationship between fatigue strength and yielding in S-N diagrams for steel components. It highlights that the standard practice involves plotting fatigue strength (Sm) at 0.9 times the ultimate tensile strength (Sut) and connecting it to the endurance limit (Se). However, concerns are raised about yielding occurring at approximately 0.5 Sut before reaching Sm, suggesting that yielding could dictate failure rather than fatigue. Abhishekdas confirms this, stating that if the allowable tensile stress based on yield strength is lower than the fatigue strength, then yielding should be prioritized in design considerations. This emphasizes the importance of considering both yield and fatigue limits in component design.
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A standard way of plotting an S-N (fatigue strength vs no of cycles) graph is to start off by taking a value of Sm (for N=1000) cycles and joining it to the point depicting Se(Endurance Limit). Now we commonly take Sm= 0.9Sut for steels. Now I was wandering, before you actually get to use the component for 1000 cyces at 0.9 Sut the component will yield at around 0.5Sut(before you reach Sm), as Sy(steel)≈.5Sut. SO should yielding be the cause of failure for values of stress rather than fatigue?
Thank you in anticipation.
 
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Abhishekdas: Yes, you are correct. I.e., if the allowable tensile stress (Sta) based on tensile yield strength (Sta = Sy/FSy) is less than the fatigue strength (Sn), then Sta governs over Sn, in which case you would use Sta, where FSy = yield factor of safety.
 
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