Drag on a ball - NewtonII & calculus

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The discussion focuses on solving a physics problem involving a football experiencing drag force defined by DT = 0.01v², where v is the instantaneous speed. The mass of the football is 0.4 kg, and the problem requires calculating the time it takes for the speed to decrease from 15 m/s to 12 m/s. Participants confirm the use of Newton's Second Law to create a differential equation, leading to the separation of variables and integration to find the solution.

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  • Understanding of Newton's Second Law (F = ma)
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  • Knowledge of differential equations and integration techniques
  • Basic understanding of kinematics and motion equations
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Homework Statement



A football of mass 0.4 kg travels horizontally above the ground. The ball experiences
a drag force of DT = 0.01v2 where v is instantaneous speed.
Immediately after the kick the ball has a speed of 15 m/s.
How long does it take for the speed to drop to 12 m/s?

Homework Equations



F = ma

0.01v2 = ma

0.01v2 = m(dv/dt)

The Attempt at a Solution



I realize that the acceleration is not constant and so Newton II will have to be used in creating a differential equation that can be integrated. But I'm struggling to take it from the differential with confidence in what I'm doing.

Can someone please let me know if I'm following the right lines and how to progress? o:)

Cheers
 
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Your equation is [itex]-0.01v^2= .4\frac{dv}{dt}[/itex] (".4" because you are given that m= .4 kg, "-" because drag is always opposite the direction of motion.).

You can "separate" that by multiplying both sides by -100dt and dividing both sides by [itex]v^2[/itex] to get [itex]dt= -40v^2 dv[/itex]. Now integrate both sides.
 
HallsofIvy said:
Your equation is [itex]-0.01v^2= .4\frac{dv}{dt}[/itex] (".4" because you are given that m= .4 kg, "-" because drag is always opposite the direction of motion.).

You can "separate" that by multiplying both sides by -100dt and dividing both sides by [itex]v^2[/itex] to get [itex]dt= -40v^2 dv[/itex]. Now integrate both sides.

That's brilliant thank you :)

I just assumed that I could neglect the negative by taking the acceleration or [itex]\frac{dv}{dt}[/itex] to also be negative?

Also, by dividing by [itex]v^2[/itex] would the RHS not be [itex]\frac{-40}{v^2} dv[/itex]

Thank you!
 

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