Drinking pure bacterial culture to prove a point

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The discussion centers on the proof that bacteria, specifically H. pylori, cause stomach ulcers, highlighting the initial skepticism surrounding this hypothesis. A notable point is the dramatic demonstration by an Australian doctor who ingested H. pylori and subsequently developed an ulcer, which served as pivotal evidence for the bacterial cause of ulcers. The conversation also touches on ethical concerns regarding experimental methods in microbiology, particularly the use of human subjects in testing, with references to both voluntary and involuntary participation in studies. Participants express mixed feelings about the daring nature of self-experimentation and the ethical implications of historical experiments, indicating a broader concern for ethical standards in scientific research.
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How to prove that bacteria cause stomach ulcers:

Excerpt from Alberts et al. Molecular Biology of the Cell:
The hypothesis that stomach ulcers could be caused by a persistent bacterial infection of the stomach lining initially met with considerable skepticism. The point was finally proven by the young Australian doctor who made the initial discovery: he drank a flask of a pure culture of H. pylori and developed a typical ulcer.
this won't be my way of writing up a research plan..
 
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Perhaps you could research the effects of massage on the levels of neurotransmitters this way?
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Originally posted by Monique
this won't be my way of writing up a research plan..
*changed her mind*
 
When we take our introductary class to microbiology, in the section about food born disease we had a table with how many organism was necessary to cause disease. The prof said they would inoculated food for inmates.

Also in one of our class about virulence, they would test vaccine against gonorrhea by infecting volonteers with a virulent strain. the prof said "I can't believe they got volunteer for that".

There is more interresting story.
 
Performing such types of testing on involuntary volunteers is just outright unethical, that is why I though that drinking the culture yourself is rather a daring move.. crazy, but daring..

Um, you are a microbiologist.. right Ian? Um.. care for making a name?
 
Originally posted by Monique
Performing such types of testing on involuntary volunteers is just outright unethical

the inmates new about the salmonella in their chicken but they had 50% of chance of not having any bacteria.

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Um, you are a microbiologist.. right Ian? Um.. care for making a name?

I am not that desperate yet anyway the guy will only be remember for drink bacteria and he is not the first one to do it.
 
Well if you are starting to see things in that light we can start a thread on all the horrific experiments that were carried out under Adolf Hitler's regime.

Gee.. someone is is a bad mood..
 
It is too bad that sarcasm is not well express in writting. I should of put a smilley at the end of my comment.
 

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