Dynamic and kinematic viscosity and how they relate

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the relationship between dynamic and kinematic viscosity, particularly in the context of comparing the viscosities of water and air. Participants explore how these two types of viscosity are defined and their implications in fluid dynamics.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents calculations showing that while the dynamic viscosity of water is greater than that of air, the kinematic viscosity of water is less than that of air, leading to a question about which fluid is more viscous overall.
  • Another participant asserts that viscosity typically refers to dynamic viscosity, suggesting that water is more viscous than air based on this definition.
  • A further contribution emphasizes that dynamic viscosity is more physically meaningful in the context of relating velocity gradients to shear stresses, while kinematic viscosity is noted as a convenience for notation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that dynamic viscosity is the more relevant measure of viscosity in most contexts, but there is a lack of consensus on how to interpret the relationship between dynamic and kinematic viscosities in terms of overall fluid viscosity.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the implications of the differing definitions and uses of dynamic and kinematic viscosity, nor does it clarify the conditions under which one might be preferred over the other.

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I have been looking into how the overall viscosity of a liquid/gas is related to kinematic and dynamic viscosities.

I have used nwater = 1e-3 Pa.s
nair = 17.4e-6 Pa.s
densitywater = 1000 kgm^-3
densityair = 1.3 kgm^3

and kinematic viscosity v = n/density

So vair ~ 1.4e-5
vwater ~ 1e-6

So here the dynamic viscosity of water is greater than that of air, but the kinematic viscosity for water is less that that of air.

Does this mean that air is the more viscous fluid? How would one use there two properties to describe the overall viscosity of a fluid?

Mitch
 
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Typically, when people refer to viscosity, they are referring to the dynamic viscosity, not the kinematic viscosity. So, I would describe water as more viscous than air.
 
cjl said:
Typically, when people refer to viscosity, they are referring to the dynamic viscosity, not the kinematic viscosity. So, I would describe water as more viscous than air.

To add onto this, viscosity's chief use, relating velocity gradients in a fluid to shear stresses, involves dynamic viscosity, \mu. Kinematic viscosity is more of a value of convenience used because it can help simplify the notation sometimes. Dynamic viscosity is the more physically meaningful quantity in the most basic sense.
 
I was thinking that was the case. Thank you both for the explanations.
 

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