Dynamics of material (momentum )

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The discussion revolves around a dynamics problem involving a 10 kg block on an incline subjected to a force and friction. The scenario includes the block being struck by a 50 kN force for a duration of 5 ms, leading to questions about its motion and the resulting compression of a spring at the top of the incline.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants explore the implications of the applied force and its duration on the block's motion, questioning the role of momentum conservation and impulse. There are attempts to clarify the relationship between force, time, and the resulting velocity of the block.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active with participants questioning each other's understanding of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the concepts of impulse and momentum, but there is no clear consensus on the correct approach to the problem.

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Participants express confusion regarding the application of the given force and the significance of the time duration in the context of the problem. There are references to attachments that contain additional work, which are noted to be unclear or incorrect by some participants.

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Hi, I am having difficulty solving the problem, please resolve it if possible. my work and the image for the problem is attached. Thanks
The 10 kg block is at rest on the bottom of the incline (θ = 30°) when it is suddenly struck by a 50 kN force that sends it sliding up the incline. The duration of the force is 5 ms and the coefficient of kinetic friction between the block and the incline is 0.2. The block slides 30 m up the incline and makes contact with the spring (initially uncompressed, k = 15 kN/m). What is the maximum compression of the spring
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Faraz said:
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Hi, I am having difficulty solving the problem, please resolve it if possible. my work and the image for the problem is attached. Thanks
The 10 kg block is at rest on the bottom of the incline (θ = 30°) when it is suddenly struck by a 50 kN force that sends it sliding up the incline. The duration of the force is 5 ms and the coefficient of kinetic friction between the block and the incline is 0.2. The block slides 30 m up the incline and makes contact with the spring (initially uncompressed, k = 15 kN/m). What is the maximum compression of the spring
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You solved a different problem. What does the 50 kN force do with the 10 kg block in 5 ms?
 
i KNOW i should use conservation of momentum but don't know how
 
Faraz said:
i KNOW i should use conservation of momentum but don't know how
Momentum is conserved if no force acts on the body.
There are forces acting on the 10 kg block. It is in rest initially. Does it stay in rest when the force acts on it ?
 
no
 
so why is the time given
 
im really confused, because in that case my solution is correct
 
Will it move? with what velocity?
 
Faraz said:
so why is the time given
In what case?
 
  • #10
did you check out the attachments?
 
  • #11
Faraz said:
did you check out the attachments?
Yes. It is wrong. You did not you use the given force and time, what you did is not related to the problem.
Read the problem statement carefully.
 
  • #12
ive done it numerous times, can you actually help me solve it
 
  • #13
Faraz said:
ive done it numerous times, can you actually help me solve it
I tried to help you, but you said that you solved the problem correctly.
I ask again: what happens to a body if force is applied to it?
 
  • #14
it moves
 
  • #15
Faraz said:
it moves
Imagine the setup. There is a block in rest at the bottom of a slope. Far away from it, there is a spring at the top of the slope. How can the block compress the spring? It has to reach it. For that , it needs enough velocity. How does it get velocity? If force is applied to it.
It accelerates, gains some velocity and momentum during some time.
How is the change of momentum related to the force and time of application of the force?
 
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impulse?
 
  • #17
Faraz said:
impulse?
Yes, impulse. What impulse does the block get if 50 kN force is applied for 5ms?
 
  • #18
ft
 
  • #19
How much is it? and what velocity does the block gain from that impulse?
 
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  • #21
i just resolved it, is it correct?
 
  • #22
I can not read your handwriting. Explain what you do.
 

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